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Height, intelligence, and a sense of humor. You can often get by with just two. Beyond a certain threshold, throwing money at women doesn't really yield more r

Height, intelligence, and a sense of humor. You can often get by with just two. Beyond a certain threshold, throwing money at women doesn't really yield more results. Or at least not the kind of results you'd want.

lupire 4y ago
If you are tall, smart, and funny, but can't pull in good money, you probably aren't so smart. Unless maybe you are ugly? But then does tall still help?
- bradlys 4y ago
  Tall always helps. Imagine you were short and ugly - tall and ugly is a big improvement. Cosmetic surgery can improve ugly a little bit too. If you have all that money then you’re able to afford it as well. Even with little money - you can fly to Turkey and get operations for significantly less.
- yterdy 4y ago
  Intelligence is multi-faceted. Could be witty, could be street-smart, could be emotionally intelligent. Either way, you don't need it if you have the other two (with "funny" being a euphemism for "not dull"). Height especially. I don't have a dog in that race as a gay man, but the way that "preference" bleeds into the way people treat you in the office and in social settings (and even in the classroom) is pretty frustrating. Short guys (and, to a lesser extent, women) have to be within a certain range of personalities to do well; tall guys don't have to have a personality at all.
  - polio 4y ago
    Yes, those are all colloquially accepted meanings of intelligence, but what people in this thread mean is g, fluid intelligence.
    - sillysaurusx 4y ago
      Not really. Or at least it’s not what I meant. Charisma (rizz) is closer, but on the opposite side of the fence. You want to aim for charisma, not fluid intelligence. But getting there requires creativity and confidence, which often go hand in hand with intelligence. In other words, if you have a high g spot, you’re in a good position. Fluid intelligence good to have. But you have to translate it into something social-facing: jokes, a hobby, something other than merely being a meat-based database of knowledge. People can get that from google.
- greatpostman 4y ago
  Women don’t think like this
bilsbie 4y ago
Is height a bigger deal than 10-20 years ago? I feel like I keep hearing about it.
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  I am guessing it is more explicitly stated as a preference than in previous decades. And globally, proportionally, a lot more people are taller due to drastic decreases in malnutrition, so there are wider variations in height.
- fullshark 4y ago
  I think it was always a big deal and kind of a key attribute women consider for physical attractiveness, but it was kind of not spoken about in general and in the internet age cat got out of the bag on psuedoanonymous forums and things like that okcupid data analysis got shared.
- zozbot234 4y ago
  It might be perceived as a bigger deal simply because it's a hard, objective factor. In practice though, there's so many other things you can do to improve your chances that there's no point in even thinking about it.
- tbrownaw 4y ago
  I keep hearing that online dating had elevated the importance of outward appearance - which would include height - even higher than what it used to be.
- HeyLaughingBoy 4y ago
  So do I. I've been with the same woman for the last 20 years but before that I had no trouble dating online and I'm definitely not tall.
- bongoman37 4y ago
  The thing with online dating is filters kill a lot of opportunities that earlier you could compensate for. Most people and women can't easily tell between someone 5'11 and 6' and subconsciously someone who is dominant is perceived as taller than they are. But on an app, women will set a hard filter cutting out men at the edges who might have a chance earlier. Interestingly, women have ensured there is no weight filter, so things are further stacked against men looking for fit partners.

lupire 4y ago

If you are tall, smart, and funny, but can't pull in good money, you probably aren't so smart. Unless maybe you are ugly? But then does tall still help?

bradlys 4y ago
Tall always helps. Imagine you were short and ugly - tall and ugly is a big improvement. Cosmetic surgery can improve ugly a little bit too. If you have all that money then you’re able to afford it as well. Even with little money - you can fly to Turkey and get operations for significantly less.
yterdy 4y ago
Intelligence is multi-faceted. Could be witty, could be street-smart, could be emotionally intelligent. Either way, you don't need it if you have the other two (with "funny" being a euphemism for "not dull"). Height especially. I don't have a dog in that race as a gay man, but the way that "preference" bleeds into the way people treat you in the office and in social settings (and even in the classroom) is pretty frustrating. Short guys (and, to a lesser extent, women) have to be within a certain range of personalities to do well; tall guys don't have to have a personality at all.
- polio 4y ago
  Yes, those are all colloquially accepted meanings of intelligence, but what people in this thread mean is g, fluid intelligence.
  - sillysaurusx 4y ago
    Not really. Or at least it’s not what I meant. Charisma (rizz) is closer, but on the opposite side of the fence. You want to aim for charisma, not fluid intelligence. But getting there requires creativity and confidence, which often go hand in hand with intelligence. In other words, if you have a high g spot, you’re in a good position. Fluid intelligence good to have. But you have to translate it into something social-facing: jokes, a hobby, something other than merely being a meat-based database of knowledge. People can get that from google.
greatpostman 4y ago
Women don’t think like this

bilsbie 4y ago

Is height a bigger deal than 10-20 years ago? I feel like I keep hearing about it.

lotsofpulp 4y ago
I am guessing it is more explicitly stated as a preference than in previous decades. And globally, proportionally, a lot more people are taller due to drastic decreases in malnutrition, so there are wider variations in height.
fullshark 4y ago
I think it was always a big deal and kind of a key attribute women consider for physical attractiveness, but it was kind of not spoken about in general and in the internet age cat got out of the bag on psuedoanonymous forums and things like that okcupid data analysis got shared.
zozbot234 4y ago
It might be perceived as a bigger deal simply because it's a hard, objective factor. In practice though, there's so many other things you can do to improve your chances that there's no point in even thinking about it.
tbrownaw 4y ago
I keep hearing that online dating had elevated the importance of outward appearance - which would include height - even higher than what it used to be.
HeyLaughingBoy 4y ago
So do I. I've been with the same woman for the last 20 years but before that I had no trouble dating online and I'm definitely not tall.
bongoman37 4y ago
The thing with online dating is filters kill a lot of opportunities that earlier you could compensate for. Most people and women can't easily tell between someone 5'11 and 6' and subconsciously someone who is dominant is perceived as taller than they are. But on an app, women will set a hard filter cutting out men at the edges who might have a chance earlier. Interestingly, women have ensured there is no weight filter, so things are further stacked against men looking for fit partners.