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Don't get me wrong, I'm much more anti-woke than the average HNer, but there appears to be something to this, at least in my head. In imagining what I would ca

Don't get me wrong, I'm much more anti-woke than the average HNer, but there appears to be something to this, at least in my head. In imagining what I would call various Europeans, I would probably say Germans or English people or Italians, or people from Spain, but I would definitely say the French and there seems to be some hint of negativity to it. My perception of the French (there it is!) is that they are haughty and condescending, especially of americans. I also carry some patronizing admonition about their military role in the world wars. You can criticize this for being preconceived and ignorant - you'd probably be right. I'm not rationally arguing, just exploring my own headspace and finding some emotional validity in TFA. It would be woke garbage to make the claim that prefixing "the" in front of everyone is dehumanizing, but I at least only do that selectively with the apparent intent to marginalize.

rgoulter 4y ago
> In imagining what I would call various Europeans, I would probably say Germans or English people or Italians, or people from Spain, but I would definitely say the French and there seems to be some hint of negativity to it. Really? To me "The English love tea" and "English people love tea" are pretty reasonable. Similarly, "French people love eating croissants" or "The French love croissants" both sound reasonable. etc. I think part of why so many people are dunking on it is, while you can say "take care to avoid dehumanizing", considering "the French" as dehumanizing seems like care beyond any real practicality.
pjc50 4y ago
You're slightly more woke than you think you are if you didn't immediately reach for "frog". (joking, but people use to just refer to people from other countries by slurs all the time, and this has greatly reduced in my sight in recent years)

rgoulter 4y ago

> In imagining what I would call various Europeans, I would probably say Germans or English people or Italians, or people from Spain, but I would definitely say the French and there seems to be some hint of negativity to it. Really? To me "The English love tea" and "English people love tea" are pretty reasonable. Similarly, "French people love eating croissants" or "The French love croissants" both sound reasonable. etc. I think part of why so many people are dunking on it is, while you can say "take care to avoid dehumanizing", considering "the French" as dehumanizing seems like care beyond any real practicality.

pjc50 4y ago

You're slightly more woke than you think you are if you didn't immediately reach for "frog". (joking, but people use to just refer to people from other countries by slurs all the time, and this has greatly reduced in my sight in recent years)