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> The problem with such things is that you would need 100% accuracy in most cases for it to be useful. Why? If there is 75% confidence a students report was ge

> The problem with such things is that you would need 100% accuracy in most cases for it to be useful. Why? If there is 75% confidence a students report was generated using ChatGPT, then that’s enough to sit down with the student and discuss the content in person and see if they actually know it. A tool such as this could help the teacher having to avoid doing this with every student, and also reinforce to students that if they don’t actually know the material there’s still a chance they get caught. > the consequences for honest students would be too severe to actually act Only if acting is immediately accusing them of plagiarism rather than working with the student to ensure it’s really their work.

avereveard 4y ago
This is not what is going to happen tho. Flagged content will not be accepted and the student failed for the class, or worse for the year. Expulsion is on the card as the war against generated content becomes bitter.
- lupire 4y ago
  No university will expel a student without evidence. One tried and lost a $1.5M lawsuit. https://people.com/human-interest/twins-defamation-lawsuit-medical-school-alleged-cheated-exam/ https://people.com/human-interest/twins-defamation-lawsuit-m...
dns_snek 4y ago
This is such a short-sighted view. Students who wish to cheat using ChatGPT will immediately start running their text through these tools preemptively, changing some phrases here and there and add spelling errors to ensure they don't get caught. You're left with innocent students being accused of cheating on regular basis. Maybe the education system will finally learn that asking students to merely recite information that can be found by anyone, anywhere, in less than 10 seconds isn't helpful in judging their understanding of the subject, except in very limited scenarios.
- Nanana909 4y ago
  > changing some phrases here and there and add spelling errors to ensure they don't get caught. The students who will do this already do this though, just with different source material I suppose. > Maybe the education system will finally learn that asking students to merely recite information that can be found by anyone, anywhere I think we’ll see an increased amount of face to face assignments like exams or essays written in class only, where students can’t use these tools. It solves the problem entirely and is arguably better - but increases education cost.

avereveard 4y ago

This is not what is going to happen tho. Flagged content will not be accepted and the student failed for the class, or worse for the year. Expulsion is on the card as the war against generated content becomes bitter.

lupire 4y ago
No university will expel a student without evidence. One tried and lost a $1.5M lawsuit. https://people.com/human-interest/twins-defamation-lawsuit-medical-school-alleged-cheated-exam/ https://people.com/human-interest/twins-defamation-lawsuit-m...

dns_snek 4y ago

This is such a short-sighted view. Students who wish to cheat using ChatGPT will immediately start running their text through these tools preemptively, changing some phrases here and there and add spelling errors to ensure they don't get caught. You're left with innocent students being accused of cheating on regular basis. Maybe the education system will finally learn that asking students to merely recite information that can be found by anyone, anywhere, in less than 10 seconds isn't helpful in judging their understanding of the subject, except in very limited scenarios.

Nanana909 4y ago
> changing some phrases here and there and add spelling errors to ensure they don't get caught. The students who will do this already do this though, just with different source material I suppose. > Maybe the education system will finally learn that asking students to merely recite information that can be found by anyone, anywhere I think we’ll see an increased amount of face to face assignments like exams or essays written in class only, where students can’t use these tools. It solves the problem entirely and is arguably better - but increases education cost.