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Thanks for replying. While I agree, direct conventional war has a much lower likelihood of ending civilization. To be very cold about it, sure lots of people wi

Thanks for replying. While I agree, direct conventional war has a much lower likelihood of ending civilization. To be very cold about it, sure lots of people will die in direct conventional war, but they would be measured in the hundreds of thousands, not tens or hundreds of millions. Conventional war is also localized. Imagine the global economic effects (not just $, but say food and fertilizer distribution) of having clouds of fallout circling the planet. COVID lock-down ^10? ^100? ^1000?

throwaway4aday 4y ago
> not tens or hundreds of millions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#:~:text=An%20estimated%20total%20of%2070,war%2Drelated%20disease%20and%20famine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#:~:tex.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties I wonder if there's an analogous metric to wtfpm that applies to historical ignorance because it sure as hell seems to be increasing lately.
- consumer451 4y ago
  I personally just don't see conventional war going to those numbers today, unless we completely unravel economic interdependence.
  - cwmoore 4y ago
    *ding* that would do it
  - hallway_monitor 4y ago
    If there's one good thing about global capitalism, it's that it has replaced outright violence as the best way to gain power!
  - kneebonian 4y ago
    I've posted about this too many times to repeat so your wrong WW1 yada yada
  - throwaway4aday 4y ago
    That's the same line of thinking that most people had prior to WW1 so I wouldn't be so sure. s/Germany/China/g and things will unravel pretty fast.
  - reisse 4y ago
    Syrian civil war is above 1m military and civilian casualties. War in Yemen and US invasion in Iraq are close.
gdy 4y ago
26 millions of Soviet citizens died in the World War 2. Unless you think that Untermensch aren't people.

throwaway4aday 4y ago

> not tens or hundreds of millions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#:~:text=An%20estimated%20total%20of%2070,war%2Drelated%20disease%20and%20famine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#:~:tex.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties I wonder if there's an analogous metric to wtfpm that applies to historical ignorance because it sure as hell seems to be increasing lately.

consumer451 4y ago
I personally just don't see conventional war going to those numbers today, unless we completely unravel economic interdependence.
- cwmoore 4y ago
  *ding* that would do it
- hallway_monitor 4y ago
  If there's one good thing about global capitalism, it's that it has replaced outright violence as the best way to gain power!
- kneebonian 4y ago
  I've posted about this too many times to repeat so your wrong WW1 yada yada
- throwaway4aday 4y ago
  That's the same line of thinking that most people had prior to WW1 so I wouldn't be so sure. s/Germany/China/g and things will unravel pretty fast.
- reisse 4y ago
  Syrian civil war is above 1m military and civilian casualties. War in Yemen and US invasion in Iraq are close.

gdy 4y ago

26 millions of Soviet citizens died in the World War 2. Unless you think that Untermensch aren't people.