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Who doesn't see that Chat-GPT coined a new hype cycle is either blind or doesn't want to see it. How long that cycle lasts and what it will end up with, noone k

Who doesn't see that Chat-GPT coined a new hype cycle is either blind or doesn't want to see it. How long that cycle lasts and what it will end up with, noone knows, of course. But Microsoft places a large bet here to be just the first contender. I bet other companies will follow and 80% of them will lose their investment, as usual. Wait for the first publicly traded opportunities to take part in that hype cycle.

gsatic 4y ago
Yup something for the unemployed bitcoin buffoon class to get behind.
- zzzzzzzza 4y ago
  inb4 everyone is unemployed 20yrs from now
- DonHopkins 4y ago
  "Buffoon" is a good first order approximation, but it doesn't quite capture the level of greedy, careless, malicious deceit and malevolence to the economy, environment, and truth, nor the complete lack of empathy and motivation to do anything positive for the world and their fellow human beings. It's kind of like the difference between Shakes the happy go-lucky imbecilic alcoholic children's birthday clown -vs- Pennywise the evil supernatural serial child killer clown. Shakes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sf1Eu06UCw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sf1Eu06UCw Pennywise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvHyqWSBG3o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvHyqWSBG3o
fnordpiglet 4y ago
I agree and disagree. It’s absolutely going to go stratospheric. But it also has clearly created something of immense value. Unlike bitcoin, which has no value or use, I at least have incorporated chatgpt in my workflow along side Kagi to great effect. I would gladly pay N multiples of my Kagi subscription to gain access to a faster and more reliable (the UX breaks constantly) version. Despite my latent wish to be unique I know there must be many more like me out there. This is my direct experience - : * I have found ways to make it the most valuable tool in my toolbox (albeit in its current form not the exclusive tool - it’s simply wrong enough that’s not plausible). I have come to a point that I will pay money on a subscription to keep access. My use and value are in no ways unique, clever, or inaccessible to basically anyone. * it has a hype cycle, so it gets advertising for free These things are what immense fortunes are made of, and as long as they can defend the IP of the product, it’ll be more enduring than crypto which ticks only the last box of my list. Yes, it’ll be pumped to the moon and see a painful correction. But if they can play the game right, I don’t see why they couldn’t have in their hands the basis of find next Netscape, Google, or iPhone. The challenge is everyone know what they did, a lot of the research underpinning is public, and the stakes are so high that very smart people are now very motivated. Unless they have an enormous patent war chest it will be reproduced by others and OpenAI itself may not be the “winner” that takes all as the article seems to think.
- gspetr 4y ago
  >have incorporated chatgpt in my workflow Can I ask you to elaborate with a few examples?
  - fnordpiglet 4y ago
    These days I’ve been writing a lot of concurrent / async rust and sometimes confused about the borrow semantics in various situations, especially when there is pinning, future closure, and macro interactions. I can ask it pretty loosely specified questions and it gives pretty good answers with clear examples. Sometimes it makes wrong assertions, like trait methods can be async, or it just makes stuff up (it told me there was a .wait on futures that block evaluates the future without the function being async, which is not true). But it’s largely right and very clear in its explanations to my direct question. Searching on Kagi gives me lots of results that might talk obliquely about my question, but if I take what I need more detail on than chatgpt can give me and search in Kagi I can find the actual facts faster by being guided by the chatgpt answer. Being able to interrogate along a path of questioning is a lot better than being given reference material that doesn’t address my area of confusion.

gsatic 4y ago

Yup something for the unemployed bitcoin buffoon class to get behind.

zzzzzzzza 4y ago
inb4 everyone is unemployed 20yrs from now
DonHopkins 4y ago
"Buffoon" is a good first order approximation, but it doesn't quite capture the level of greedy, careless, malicious deceit and malevolence to the economy, environment, and truth, nor the complete lack of empathy and motivation to do anything positive for the world and their fellow human beings. It's kind of like the difference between Shakes the happy go-lucky imbecilic alcoholic children's birthday clown -vs- Pennywise the evil supernatural serial child killer clown. Shakes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sf1Eu06UCw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sf1Eu06UCw Pennywise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvHyqWSBG3o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvHyqWSBG3o

fnordpiglet 4y ago

I agree and disagree. It’s absolutely going to go stratospheric. But it also has clearly created something of immense value. Unlike bitcoin, which has no value or use, I at least have incorporated chatgpt in my workflow along side Kagi to great effect. I would gladly pay N multiples of my Kagi subscription to gain access to a faster and more reliable (the UX breaks constantly) version. Despite my latent wish to be unique I know there must be many more like me out there. This is my direct experience - : * I have found ways to make it the most valuable tool in my toolbox (albeit in its current form not the exclusive tool - it’s simply wrong enough that’s not plausible). I have come to a point that I will pay money on a subscription to keep access. My use and value are in no ways unique, clever, or inaccessible to basically anyone. * it has a hype cycle, so it gets advertising for free These things are what immense fortunes are made of, and as long as they can defend the IP of the product, it’ll be more enduring than crypto which ticks only the last box of my list. Yes, it’ll be pumped to the moon and see a painful correction. But if they can play the game right, I don’t see why they couldn’t have in their hands the basis of find next Netscape, Google, or iPhone. The challenge is everyone know what they did, a lot of the research underpinning is public, and the stakes are so high that very smart people are now very motivated. Unless they have an enormous patent war chest it will be reproduced by others and OpenAI itself may not be the “winner” that takes all as the article seems to think.

gspetr 4y ago
>have incorporated chatgpt in my workflow Can I ask you to elaborate with a few examples?
- fnordpiglet 4y ago
  These days I’ve been writing a lot of concurrent / async rust and sometimes confused about the borrow semantics in various situations, especially when there is pinning, future closure, and macro interactions. I can ask it pretty loosely specified questions and it gives pretty good answers with clear examples. Sometimes it makes wrong assertions, like trait methods can be async, or it just makes stuff up (it told me there was a .wait on futures that block evaluates the future without the function being async, which is not true). But it’s largely right and very clear in its explanations to my direct question. Searching on Kagi gives me lots of results that might talk obliquely about my question, but if I take what I need more detail on than chatgpt can give me and search in Kagi I can find the actual facts faster by being guided by the chatgpt answer. Being able to interrogate along a path of questioning is a lot better than being given reference material that doesn’t address my area of confusion.