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You know HN is turning into a shithole when a factual post is downvoted.

concinds 4y ago
You know it is, when Alex Jones-tier posts saying that a political opponent is "literally" a human trafficker are upvoted. But I suppose that's just a reflection of how pathological American discourse as a whole has gotten.
- defrost 4y ago
  Human trafficking is the recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of people through force, fraud, coercion or deception, with the aim of exploiting them for profit. It checks out factually. I'm a non USAian with no particular interest in either of the two US parties (other than a historic awareness that the original founders had a disdain for Political Parties and would have hated the current disfunctional bicameral mess). However both the US Gov. of Texas and the US Gov. of Florida delibrately deceived humans (fraud) and transported them for political profit. That makes them both literal textbook human trafficers. Don't like it? Take it up with the OED.
  - concinds 4y ago
    This is Dunning-Kruger. I'm glad judges don't declare someone guilty of a crime based on reading a (layman) dictionary definition. And American pathology has a tendency to spread to other counrties thanks to their overwhelming cultural influence via the internet.
    - defrost 4y ago
      > This is Dunning-Kruger. No. It isn't. Be smarter. > I'm glad judges don't declare someone guilty of a crime based on reading a (layman) dictionary definition. First the DOJ brings charges, as is currently being considered: Authorities in Massachusetts said Sunday that they have requested a federal human trafficking probe after Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis boasted of sending about 50 Venezuelan migrants to Martha's Vineyard to shine a national spotlight on immigration issues. and A criminal investigation is being launched into how a group of migrants was sent from Texas to Massachusetts with Florida taxpayer money on orders from Governor Ron DeSantis. The Bexar County Sheriff's office confirmed that to CBS4 News. Sheriff Javier Salazar says these migrants were "Lured, hoodwinked and exploited" for political purposes and that's why he's opening an investigation. etc.

You know it is, when Alex Jones-tier posts saying that a political opponent is "literally" a human trafficker are upvoted. But I suppose that's just a reflection of how pathological American discourse as a whole has gotten.

defrost 4y ago
Human trafficking is the recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of people through force, fraud, coercion or deception, with the aim of exploiting them for profit. It checks out factually. I'm a non USAian with no particular interest in either of the two US parties (other than a historic awareness that the original founders had a disdain for Political Parties and would have hated the current disfunctional bicameral mess). However both the US Gov. of Texas and the US Gov. of Florida delibrately deceived humans (fraud) and transported them for political profit. That makes them both literal textbook human trafficers. Don't like it? Take it up with the OED.
- concinds 4y ago
  This is Dunning-Kruger. I'm glad judges don't declare someone guilty of a crime based on reading a (layman) dictionary definition. And American pathology has a tendency to spread to other counrties thanks to their overwhelming cultural influence via the internet.
  - defrost 4y ago
    > This is Dunning-Kruger. No. It isn't. Be smarter. > I'm glad judges don't declare someone guilty of a crime based on reading a (layman) dictionary definition. First the DOJ brings charges, as is currently being considered: Authorities in Massachusetts said Sunday that they have requested a federal human trafficking probe after Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis boasted of sending about 50 Venezuelan migrants to Martha's Vineyard to shine a national spotlight on immigration issues. and A criminal investigation is being launched into how a group of migrants was sent from Texas to Massachusetts with Florida taxpayer money on orders from Governor Ron DeSantis. The Bexar County Sheriff's office confirmed that to CBS4 News. Sheriff Javier Salazar says these migrants were "Lured, hoodwinked and exploited" for political purposes and that's why he's opening an investigation. etc.