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I actively looked for, and found a home in a neighborhood with no sidewalks (and no HOA)
by phpisthebest 4y ago
I actively looked for, and found a home in a neighborhood with no sidewalks (and no HOA)
- UncleOxidant 4y agoI can understand not wanting an HOA, but why wouldn't you want sidewalks?
- Rebelgecko 4y agoI don't know OP's reasoning, but some people don't like sidewalks and public transit because they think it makes it easier for undesirables to visit their community
- phpisthebest 4y agoI have to maintain them, snow removal in the winter, pay to have them replaced when the crack, liability for injury if people trip and fall, sidewalks invite people walking their dogs who do not clean up after them.... Tons of reasons.
- theGnuMe 4y agoThe liability is a red herring because technically that land is not yours if it is adjacent to the public road (at least in Minnesota). Your town however can force you to remove the snow and ice on it. I don't know about repairs... most likely the city will fix it and charge you an assessment. When they upgrade the sewer and roads they usually add an assessment to the adjacent properties vs paying for it out of tax revenue.
- rahimnathwani 4y agoThis depends on where you live. In San Francisco: Under the provisions of Article 15, Section 706 of the Public Works Code, it is the responsibility of property owners to maintain the sidewalk in front of and/or surrounding their property, including driveways and sidewalk structures, and to repair any defects or conditions which may cause injury to persons or damage to property. In the event of such occurrences, property owners are liable for any claims that may arise. This seems bonkers to me, as I grew up in the UK, where you're not responsible for maintaining stuff that's not yours.
- bscphil 4y ago> to repair any defects or conditions which may cause injury to persons or damage to property This is a remarkably strong requirement. I wonder if the same holds in Los Angeles, and if so, how every property owner has not been sued out of existence by now. I don't know that I've ever seen a sidewalk adjoining private property being repaired, and the state of the sidewalks shows it. I've tripped over bulging chunks of concrete pushed up by tree roots I don't know how many times.
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- MomoXenosaga 4y agoIn my country they have rules that (fast food) restaurants have to keep the side walk clean from trash.
- phpisthebest 4y ago>The liability is a red herring because technically that land is not yours if it is adjacent to the public road (at least in Minnesota) That is not true in most places I have ever lived, the Side Walk is an "public use easement" that the property owner is required to keep in good working condition at their expense including removing snow, mowing, ensuring it is not blocked, and does not pose a hazard In every city I have lived The city can and will fine the property owner if the snow is not cleared with in 24 hours, if you allow a guest to block the sidewalk by parking over it (i.e more than a few cars in your drive where the care intrude in to the sidewalk) or of cracks or other hazards appear. We just had to pay to have the sidewalks replaced in front of my grandparents home (who are dead but the family still owns the home) because there were in disrepair.
- jonp888 4y agoClearly you see sidewalks as entirely useless constructions that represent only unecessary cost and risk. It's incredibly sad that in your perfect world no one would ever walk further than from the door of their dwelling to the door of their motor vehicle. No wonder 40% of the US population is obese.
- phpisthebest 4y agoLack of Walking is not the reason the US is obese. Walking does not burn that many calories. What an absurd statement. The US is obese for many reasons including decades of nutrition education focused on a high carb diet ( food pyramid ), large portion sizes, and subsidized high fructose corn syrup
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- rotifer 4y agoThe city recently added sidewalks to my (low traffic) street after doing some sewer upgrades. Lots of people continue to walk on the street because it's consistently flat, as opposed to the dip and slope you encounter on the sidewalk at each driveway entrance. These can be more treacherous in the winter because you now have ice on a slope. People with (even mild) mobility issues seem to be disproportionately affected.
- sn0wf1re 4y agoA simple solution is to not dip the sidewalks. Just have a larger bump for cars.
- theGnuMe 4y agoSnow removal and sidewalk maintenance of the parts that abut your house.
- floxy 4y agoFeels more "homey"? Less manicured / managed? More rural. I grew up in a house without sidewalks, and currently live in a house without sidewalks. Maybe that's what you grew up with and so it feels more "authentic"?
- patrick451 4y agoSidewalks are an erosion of property rights. They are a legally mandated ingress to you private property. I don't permit people to take a shortcut through my living room even if it's convenient, and I don't want them walking through my yard either. This is why I own property and do not live in a public park. The law requires that you maintain this ingress, e.g., shoveling snow, and if you fail to so will impose large fines. If the government wants sidewalks, they should be maintained by the city and contiguous with the street.
- paulryanrogers 4y agoHeaven forbid we each sacrifice a modest slice of property to keep pedestrians safer from cars.
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- giraffe_lady 4y agojust comically evil god damn
- jewayne 4y agoSorry, but I can't avoid picturing you as one of the dystopian fat people in Wall-E who are so obese they've lost their ability to walk.
- snowwrestler 4y agoTechnically correct as even vehicle occupants who are injured in crashes are not, by definition, pedestrians.
- yuppie_scum 4y agoWe live in a society
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- jewayne 4y agoNobody needs an HOA. Until they need an HOA.
- mushbino 4y agoWhat would you need an HOA for?
- brailsafe 4y agoname checks out