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>>FREE KEVIN > PUT KEVIN BACK Registered a throwaway over Tor just for this thread. Kevin shouldn't be in prison, because prisons should be abolished, but be

>>FREE KEVIN > PUT KEVIN BACK Registered a throwaway over Tor just for this thread. Kevin shouldn't be in prison, because prisons should be abolished, but be careful where you put... that. There's a notorious story about him being physically ejected from a fundraiser for refusing to pay the entry. (Redacting some details to stick to the fun parts) On my end, I was working my way up to maybe flirting with someone I'd had a crush on for years, because I was a widdle baby hacker at my first... con... and off in the corner there's some kind of disturbance. "What was that?!" I sputter, straining to see across the smoky room, and some multicolored cyberpunk dryly drops "Oh, some asshole getting bounced" If my timelines are correct, "some asshole" was Kevin Freaking Mitnick being physically ejected because when repeatedly asked to pay the door fee kept reiterating "I'm Kevin Mitnick!" and being repeatedly told "We know!" until one of the goons just... picked him up and carried him out into the hall. And me? I was in the corner being aggressively hit on by John "Cap N Crunch" Draper, who seemed annoyed I kept refusing to drink from his flask. I told him dude, I'm 21 I can just buy booze at the bar and he angrily spat back "Why would I tell you if she's single, then you won't ever let me give you a massage!" and stormed off to find someone dumber and younger than me to ply. (It was my first hacker convention, and it fully lived up to my expectations even if I didn't end up on the roof that year, lolllll)

nibbleshifter 4y ago
> I was in the corner being aggressively hit on by John "Cap N Crunch" Draper I recall being specifically warned about him early in my conference attending. Dudes creepy as all fuck. At later events he was eventually banned.
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- fallowkevin 4y ago
  He was banned ten years after I interacted with him. I actually was asked to leave a vendor party I was trying to network at for "starting drama" when I told others not to be alone with him. (Fuck you, Duo.)
birdyrooster 4y ago
As far as hacker cons go, Defcon is not CCC Defcon is basically run by a gang that values loyalty and dedication above most things.. which has historically low standards of ethics for their goons and attendees (albeit has improved somewhat over the years)
- fallowkevin 4y ago
  >Defcon is basically run by a gang No, Derby was run by a gang. (The 303 could probably be RICO'd) I cannot confirm or deny that Defcon is where the event occured, especially since it was technically just an event at a casino, as many things occuring on the same days as Defcon occur. >a gang that values loyalty and dedication above most things.. which has historically low standards of ethics for their goons and attendees I actually was told by someone at my last Defcon they were boycotting CCC because they allowed Nazi imagery or something to that effect, which surprisede me given... you know... Germany. I've never been to CCC. I can tell you that Defcon is changing though. I volunteered with a village rather than as a goon since I don't want to kiss ass to war criminals. (A lot of their security is ex Navy Seals. I will hold the goddamn door open when it comes time to batman people to the Hague, I don't like people who volunteered to do war crimes then walk around Las Vegas with a gun on their hip whining about weed.) Anyways... I never felt welcome at Defcon, it was like being in high school at the pool table -- you can pay like anyone else to play, but... there's a line... for lack of a better analogy. Maybe I should check out CCC but part of the appeal of Defcon was cost... for an American, it's pretty cheap for a hotel and airfare compared to going to Europe, a place I may never return to since standing up for folks in the Me Too era + standing against white nationalism has resulted in me being blacklisted from infosec.
  - morcheeba 4y ago
    CCC was a lot of fun. At the time there was a special package for people from the US for hostel+admission so that no one would be stuck with airfare and no ticket. Had a great time, ended up talking the night away at the hostel bar with the keynote speaker and didn't realize who it was. (not creepy, just fun hacker talk)

nibbleshifter 4y ago

> I was in the corner being aggressively hit on by John "Cap N Crunch" Draper I recall being specifically warned about him early in my conference attending. Dudes creepy as all fuck. At later events he was eventually banned.

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fallowkevin 4y ago
He was banned ten years after I interacted with him. I actually was asked to leave a vendor party I was trying to network at for "starting drama" when I told others not to be alone with him. (Fuck you, Duo.)

birdyrooster 4y ago

As far as hacker cons go, Defcon is not CCC Defcon is basically run by a gang that values loyalty and dedication above most things.. which has historically low standards of ethics for their goons and attendees (albeit has improved somewhat over the years)

fallowkevin 4y ago
>Defcon is basically run by a gang No, Derby was run by a gang. (The 303 could probably be RICO'd) I cannot confirm or deny that Defcon is where the event occured, especially since it was technically just an event at a casino, as many things occuring on the same days as Defcon occur. >a gang that values loyalty and dedication above most things.. which has historically low standards of ethics for their goons and attendees I actually was told by someone at my last Defcon they were boycotting CCC because they allowed Nazi imagery or something to that effect, which surprisede me given... you know... Germany. I've never been to CCC. I can tell you that Defcon is changing though. I volunteered with a village rather than as a goon since I don't want to kiss ass to war criminals. (A lot of their security is ex Navy Seals. I will hold the goddamn door open when it comes time to batman people to the Hague, I don't like people who volunteered to do war crimes then walk around Las Vegas with a gun on their hip whining about weed.) Anyways... I never felt welcome at Defcon, it was like being in high school at the pool table -- you can pay like anyone else to play, but... there's a line... for lack of a better analogy. Maybe I should check out CCC but part of the appeal of Defcon was cost... for an American, it's pretty cheap for a hotel and airfare compared to going to Europe, a place I may never return to since standing up for folks in the Me Too era + standing against white nationalism has resulted in me being blacklisted from infosec.
- morcheeba 4y ago
  CCC was a lot of fun. At the time there was a special package for people from the US for hostel+admission so that no one would be stuck with airfare and no ticket. Had a great time, ended up talking the night away at the hostel bar with the keynote speaker and didn't realize who it was. (not creepy, just fun hacker talk)