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After Trump, we can't knock China for being defensive. We sail warships by their ports and concoct distorted narratives of their policy. Meanwhile we STILL have

After Trump, we can't knock China for being defensive. We sail warships by their ports and concoct distorted narratives of their policy. Meanwhile we STILL have Guantanamo and we invaded over a dozen countries in the last century. You'd think after the "weapons of mass destruction in Iraq" that we'd realize our hysteria doesn't help the world.

Dig1t 4y ago
This is the classic whataboutism that always pops up around China. You're right about the stuff you said. It doesn't mean we're not allowed to discuss the CCP disappearing people or bad things happening in authoritarian countries in general.
- georgeg23 4y ago
  The point is we all need to turn down the temperature and stop being hysterical. They didn't disappear, they just aren't using social media.
  - AnimalMuppet 4y ago
    All those Uighurs didn't disappear, they just quit using social media? That's the lamest rationalization I have ever heard in my entire life. We can see the camps in satellite views, you know. (And those camps aren't just resorts where people can go to detox from social media...) Any given person, sure, I could buy your explanation. Saying that's all that's going on? No way.
  - CogitoCogito 4y ago
    China regularly threatens to invade Taiwan. If there’s anyone that needs to tone things down it’s China.
  - nitwit005 4y ago
    Yes, sure, they just stopped using social media. They also don't show up to work, none of their family can contact them, the government refuses to say where they are, and social media posts about them are deleted. I'm sure it's entirely innocent.
  - cuteboy19 4y ago
    no war in Ba Sing Se?
jimbob45 4y ago
I don't know that pointing out the Guantanemo Bay detention camp is the moral victory you think it is. I encourage you to research how many inmates remain in that camp[0]. Also if we're comparing crimes between the US and China over the past 100 years, surely China looks worse, right?[1] [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine

Dig1t 4y ago

This is the classic whataboutism that always pops up around China. You're right about the stuff you said. It doesn't mean we're not allowed to discuss the CCP disappearing people or bad things happening in authoritarian countries in general.

georgeg23 4y ago
The point is we all need to turn down the temperature and stop being hysterical. They didn't disappear, they just aren't using social media.
- AnimalMuppet 4y ago
  All those Uighurs didn't disappear, they just quit using social media? That's the lamest rationalization I have ever heard in my entire life. We can see the camps in satellite views, you know. (And those camps aren't just resorts where people can go to detox from social media...) Any given person, sure, I could buy your explanation. Saying that's all that's going on? No way.
- CogitoCogito 4y ago
  China regularly threatens to invade Taiwan. If there’s anyone that needs to tone things down it’s China.
- nitwit005 4y ago
  Yes, sure, they just stopped using social media. They also don't show up to work, none of their family can contact them, the government refuses to say where they are, and social media posts about them are deleted. I'm sure it's entirely innocent.
- cuteboy19 4y ago
  no war in Ba Sing Se?

jimbob45 4y ago

I don't know that pointing out the Guantanemo Bay detention camp is the moral victory you think it is. I encourage you to research how many inmates remain in that camp[0]. Also if we're comparing crimes between the US and China over the past 100 years, surely China looks worse, right?[1] [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine