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>But how can one opt out of this game? Move to alternative webs such as Gopher or Gemini, which make it impractical / impossible to monetize based on clicks /

>But how can one opt out of this game? Move to alternative webs such as Gopher or Gemini, which make it impractical / impossible to monetize based on clicks / engagement / amount of content. The issue isn't that you can generate spam. The issue is that you can make money by doing so.

pixl97 4y ago
This saves you from nothing. While making money is a big game, it's not the only game. Your thoughts and actions leads to behaviors off your computer. This is why we see all kinds of political spam and propaganda to affect your choice at the ballot box.
- _Algernon_ 4y ago
  As long as we assume that the html web doesn't completely die and remains significantly larger, it will always remain the biggest target for those kind of activities. Better to have a potential target of millions, than a target of hundreds or thousands.
  - pixl97 4y ago
    Depends what you're targeting. For example targeting a much smaller self select group of 'computer experts' for a watering hole attack of one type or another is a great way to get in to some juicy systems. If a system is machine readable and writable (which AI is fastly increasing this definition) you must assume that not only can you be attacked, you must assume that you are being attacked.
throw10920 4y ago
Gemini is an anti-intellectual artistic project that forbids interactivity and rich media like inline images, which massively increase learning and comprehension. If you're looking to learn, you'd want to avoid Gemini (and Gopher, which has similar restrictions).
- _Algernon_ 4y ago
  Gemini has interactivity, it just needs to be server side. Of course it is limited but that is the point. I'll take "anti-intellectual artistic project" over "cesspool of lowest common denominator" any day.
  - throw10920 4y ago
    Server-side interactivity is clearly not what anyone means by "interactivity" - you're intentionally twisting the usage of words. > I'll take "anti-intellectual artistic project" over "cesspool of lowest common denominator" any day. If everyone else thought like you, humanity would be set back millennia. Not to mention that it's just flat-out insane to discard the massive amounts of educational content and knowledge present on the internet just because it happens to also contain some undesirable content. This mindset is not one that we want to spread throughout our society, full-stop. Gemini is a threat to human progress.

pixl97 4y ago

This saves you from nothing. While making money is a big game, it's not the only game. Your thoughts and actions leads to behaviors off your computer. This is why we see all kinds of political spam and propaganda to affect your choice at the ballot box.

_Algernon_ 4y ago
As long as we assume that the html web doesn't completely die and remains significantly larger, it will always remain the biggest target for those kind of activities. Better to have a potential target of millions, than a target of hundreds or thousands.
- pixl97 4y ago
  Depends what you're targeting. For example targeting a much smaller self select group of 'computer experts' for a watering hole attack of one type or another is a great way to get in to some juicy systems. If a system is machine readable and writable (which AI is fastly increasing this definition) you must assume that not only can you be attacked, you must assume that you are being attacked.

throw10920 4y ago

Gemini is an anti-intellectual artistic project that forbids interactivity and rich media like inline images, which massively increase learning and comprehension. If you're looking to learn, you'd want to avoid Gemini (and Gopher, which has similar restrictions).

_Algernon_ 4y ago
Gemini has interactivity, it just needs to be server side. Of course it is limited but that is the point. I'll take "anti-intellectual artistic project" over "cesspool of lowest common denominator" any day.
- throw10920 4y ago
  Server-side interactivity is clearly not what anyone means by "interactivity" - you're intentionally twisting the usage of words. > I'll take "anti-intellectual artistic project" over "cesspool of lowest common denominator" any day. If everyone else thought like you, humanity would be set back millennia. Not to mention that it's just flat-out insane to discard the massive amounts of educational content and knowledge present on the internet just because it happens to also contain some undesirable content. This mindset is not one that we want to spread throughout our society, full-stop. Gemini is a threat to human progress.