> Isn't Jakarta sinking in the sea at a phenomenal rate? Now that you mention it, could be that that was the real reason. > This is true for a lot of places;

> Isn't Jakarta sinking in the sea at a phenomenal rate? Now that you mention it, could be that that was the real reason. > This is true for a lot of places; New York City is also dependent on the rest of the United States for food, Berlin on the rest of Germany, London on the rest of the UK, Auckland on the rest of NZ, etc. Yes, but if food dependency wasn't a issue, then there would be no reason for Java to be so much more populous than anywhere else in the region. They could have settled in more strategic locations. I guess moving the food around still matters.