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That only works for people who have another Apple device. A lot of people just own one Apple device – their phone. So you would have to send out an email for th

by foldr 4y ago

That only works for people who have another Apple device. A lot of people just own one Apple device – their phone. So you would have to send out an email for this to work, in the general case.

pathartl 4y ago
Apple has no problem building features assuming people have more than one Apple device. Hell, AirPods can't update unless someone has an iPhone.
- foldr 4y ago
  We're talking about a proposal that you are putting forward as a good idea. I pointed out that the proposal won't work for users who have only one Apple device. You've responded by suggesting that Apple wouldn't care. Well, maybe they wouldn't – I don't know – but don't you care? If so, how would you solve the problem?
  - pathartl 4y ago
    No, I don't care. If an Apple user signs up for Find My on their laptop, then their laptop is stolen and they don't try to use Find My to recover it... I don't know man. It's a "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas" situation. Meanwhile it provides the benefit where if you're sold a machine and the original seller can't be contacted to unlock it, it gets automatically unlocked some timespan later. It's not perfect, but it's better than the current situation.
    - foldr 4y ago
      I guess at some point this is a subjective value judgment that's not worth arguing about, but help me to understand this. If you bought an Apple laptop, would you be more worried about (a) the laptop being stolen, or (b) an indirect recipient of the laptop being unable to use it because they couldn't contact you in order to unlock it? For me it's pretty clearly (a). If I want to sell the laptop, I can easily reset it and do so. If you think about it from the point of view of Apple customers (which is hopefully what Apple is doing), then the choice is pretty clear.

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That only works for people who have another Apple device. A lot of people just own one Apple device – their phone. So you would have to send out an email for th

by foldr 4y ago

That only works for people who have another Apple device. A lot of people just own one Apple device – their phone. So you would have to send out an email for this to work, in the general case.

pathartl 4y ago
Apple has no problem building features assuming people have more than one Apple device. Hell, AirPods can't update unless someone has an iPhone.
- foldr 4y ago
  We're talking about a proposal that you are putting forward as a good idea. I pointed out that the proposal won't work for users who have only one Apple device. You've responded by suggesting that Apple wouldn't care. Well, maybe they wouldn't – I don't know – but don't you care? If so, how would you solve the problem?
  - pathartl 4y ago
    No, I don't care. If an Apple user signs up for Find My on their laptop, then their laptop is stolen and they don't try to use Find My to recover it... I don't know man. It's a "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas" situation. Meanwhile it provides the benefit where if you're sold a machine and the original seller can't be contacted to unlock it, it gets automatically unlocked some timespan later. It's not perfect, but it's better than the current situation.
    - foldr 4y ago
      I guess at some point this is a subjective value judgment that's not worth arguing about, but help me to understand this. If you bought an Apple laptop, would you be more worried about (a) the laptop being stolen, or (b) an indirect recipient of the laptop being unable to use it because they couldn't contact you in order to unlock it? For me it's pretty clearly (a). If I want to sell the laptop, I can easily reset it and do so. If you think about it from the point of view of Apple customers (which is hopefully what Apple is doing), then the choice is pretty clear.