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Easiest way to do this is to not sign anything unless it involves extra pay. I’ve politely refused HR’s request to re-sign bunch of documents before when leavin

Easiest way to do this is to not sign anything unless it involves extra pay. I’ve politely refused HR’s request to re-sign bunch of documents before when leaving - I didn’t feel like digging through them or paying a lawyer and they had zero leverage

thwayunion 4y ago
I've never refused, but I do always outline the (usually low four figure) cost in time and legal expenses required to review the contract. I close by explaining that I cannot in good faith enter into an ostensibly binding contract without some form of consideration from my counter-party because such a contract would be difficult to enforce in any case. HR never knows what to do and usually just never gets around to replying to the email.
jrockway 4y ago
I don't even politely reply. At my last job, HR sent me a "contract" offering $1 in exchange for agreeing not to work in the industry for 1 year. I archived their email and never spoke to them again :) It would really depend on the job, of course. I didn't really care about that one, and didn't see myself ever wanting to work with that founder again, so I didn't make any effort to be "nice" in any way. If I ever left my current job, I would make sure to stay on the best of terms. I would be annoyed if they paid me $1 to not work for a year, but I also know they would never ask for that.
smeej 4y ago
I had signed a contract at hire saying I would sign the separation agreement when I left. I didn't have any issue with the agreement I had already made. I just wasn't willing to change it as I was voluntarily leaving and they weren't offering me anything to change the terms. I'm not even 100% sure I would have noticed it except that my new employer required disclosure of any restrictions I had, so I disclosed the 12-month non-recruit from the previous company. It was fresh to mind. The two companies are in the same general industry, but do not compete with each other.

thwayunion 4y ago

I've never refused, but I do always outline the (usually low four figure) cost in time and legal expenses required to review the contract. I close by explaining that I cannot in good faith enter into an ostensibly binding contract without some form of consideration from my counter-party because such a contract would be difficult to enforce in any case. HR never knows what to do and usually just never gets around to replying to the email.

jrockway 4y ago

I don't even politely reply. At my last job, HR sent me a "contract" offering $1 in exchange for agreeing not to work in the industry for 1 year. I archived their email and never spoke to them again :) It would really depend on the job, of course. I didn't really care about that one, and didn't see myself ever wanting to work with that founder again, so I didn't make any effort to be "nice" in any way. If I ever left my current job, I would make sure to stay on the best of terms. I would be annoyed if they paid me $1 to not work for a year, but I also know they would never ask for that.

smeej 4y ago

I had signed a contract at hire saying I would sign the separation agreement when I left. I didn't have any issue with the agreement I had already made. I just wasn't willing to change it as I was voluntarily leaving and they weren't offering me anything to change the terms. I'm not even 100% sure I would have noticed it except that my new employer required disclosure of any restrictions I had, so I disclosed the 12-month non-recruit from the previous company. It was fresh to mind. The two companies are in the same general industry, but do not compete with each other.