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AI music is the next thing coming, wait for copyright lawsuits to fall like bombs. I find it fascinating that MidJourney can make a 3D model of my face from a

AI music is the next thing coming, wait for copyright lawsuits to fall like bombs. I find it fascinating that MidJourney can make a 3D model of my face from a low quality image, rotate it in space, apply it on someone's else body, add coherent shadows and backgrounds, with a very credible result, and yet an AI cannot generate a decent song, which is 1-dimensional and has probably much less internal modelling to care about? One reason I can think of is because eyes are "integrators" and ears are "derivators". That is, that human ear is very sensitive so small differences, whereas vision cares more about the ensemble? I don't know, but I think that AI music will come one day. It may not be as great as human music, but it will suffice for, say, putting a music background for your startup cheap marketing ad.

infinitifall 4y ago
Possibly just anecdotal evidence, but it seems like the pool of good music composers is much much smaller than the pool of good visual artists. Maybe that is an indicator of how "hard" each field is.
- notahacker 4y ago
  Think that depends heavily on what you consider to be a "composer" and what you consider to be "good" in both art and music. Writing somewhat novel music to a formula arguably has a much lower skill bar than producing good representative art (especially if you allow sequencers as composition and disallow basic digital retouching of photos as visual art), but producing something that genuinely stands out may be harder
jtode 4y ago
It will be as good as the music it's trained on, no better and probably no worse.
52-6F-62 4y ago
> which is 1-dimensional and has probably much less internal modelling to care about There is an ocean between “I like that sound” and a final, produced piece of recorded music. Much of that ocean being ineffable. Trying to reduce it to a set of parameters around the final waveform and you’ve missed the entire point. > but it will suffice for, say, putting a music background for your startup cheap marketing ad. We need less of that—not more. It’s like a climate disaster of the soul.
- wilg 4y ago
  The ineffable will inevitably be effed by AI.
  - 52-6F-62 4y ago
    Eff it indeed. The only thing it will really F is that bridge that art built to bring people in closer touch with themselves. Thinking we can shortcut self-discovery, individuation and essential human connection with an algorithm is insane hubris. Icarus’ wings are melting.
jzombie 4y ago
In my opinion, good music is multidimensional. Just like a 3D model is really only 2D on a screen, music can encompass so much more than what is heard on the surface level with no imagination.

infinitifall 4y ago

Possibly just anecdotal evidence, but it seems like the pool of good music composers is much much smaller than the pool of good visual artists. Maybe that is an indicator of how "hard" each field is.

notahacker 4y ago
Think that depends heavily on what you consider to be a "composer" and what you consider to be "good" in both art and music. Writing somewhat novel music to a formula arguably has a much lower skill bar than producing good representative art (especially if you allow sequencers as composition and disallow basic digital retouching of photos as visual art), but producing something that genuinely stands out may be harder

jtode 4y ago

It will be as good as the music it's trained on, no better and probably no worse.

52-6F-62 4y ago

> which is 1-dimensional and has probably much less internal modelling to care about There is an ocean between “I like that sound” and a final, produced piece of recorded music. Much of that ocean being ineffable. Trying to reduce it to a set of parameters around the final waveform and you’ve missed the entire point. > but it will suffice for, say, putting a music background for your startup cheap marketing ad. We need less of that—not more. It’s like a climate disaster of the soul.

wilg 4y ago
The ineffable will inevitably be effed by AI.
- 52-6F-62 4y ago
  Eff it indeed. The only thing it will really F is that bridge that art built to bring people in closer touch with themselves. Thinking we can shortcut self-discovery, individuation and essential human connection with an algorithm is insane hubris. Icarus’ wings are melting.

jzombie 4y ago

In my opinion, good music is multidimensional. Just like a 3D model is really only 2D on a screen, music can encompass so much more than what is heard on the surface level with no imagination.