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Deepfaked Tom Cruise and Paris Hilton by Metaphysic
- pikseladam 4y agoI didn't expect that kind of quality. Incredible
- bberrry 4y agoMaybe I'm bad at spotting these things but it looks and sounds super convincing to me. I really dread this technology weaponized in politics.
- cm2187 4y agoWhy would it have more impact than photoshop? We just don't trust an image unless we are confident of the source. The same will apply to video.
- hajhatten 4y agoThe amount of work needed to fake a photo vs the uncanny valley of animated human faces.
- awb 4y agoIt might be easier to invalidate celebrity/political deepfakes as there would be no independent corroborating witnesses, but we’d expect there to be some. But deepfakes used by governments, police or citizens to frame innocent civilians would be really scary. There wouldn’t be any witnesses, but we wouldn’t necessarily expect there to be any either.
- manmal 4y agoI think once deepfaking reaches a sufficient level of believability, people will stop believing video evidence.
- tommek4077 4y agoThere are videos of Nessie, Bigfoot and Aliens for decades. Are we still trusting video?!
- danparsonson 4y agoYeah but if you look carefully, those videos don't look like the real Nessie, Bigfoot or Aliens whereas Deep Tom Cruise is much more convincing.
- CyberDildonics 4y agoCan you link those videos that are close up, high resolution and slowly move the camera around them?
- kerpotgh 4y ago[dead]
- low_tech_love 4y agoA bunch of people will believe it for some amount of time, and given the very low cost of producing it, it’ll be enough. If there is one thing we learned from the recent increase in mainstream extremism fueled by social networks is that fake rumors don’t have to be especially reasonable to be effective; they just need to be generated and broadcasted at a sufficient rate (selection will do the rest of the work). One interesting question is: is one protected by freedom of speech when generating fake videos clearly intended to harm another person’s image?
- junofan 4y agoI dunno, I don’t think people need to be tricked into thinking certain things. It’s usually what they want. I don’t think promoting “the facts” or worrying about fake videos is going to change anything directionally.
- ALittleLight 4y agoI think that will be a problem of its own. e.g. In Atlanta police recently shot and killed a protester and other protesters are saying it was murder while the police are saying the protester shot first. Right now, I hope the truth will be revealed by police releasing body camera footage. In the near term future that footage will satisfy nobody and we'll all be left wondering what really did happen.
- ACS_Solver 4y agoMy dystopian techno-political prediction is that the 2024 presidential election in the US will have major impact from deepfakes. With current tech, deepfakes can be really good. The linked one is pretty much there, it's super convincing. When I know it's fake, something seems a bit off about how "Cruise's" head is in relation to his body when he walks through the doorframe but that's it. If I wasn't actively looking for anything fake, I would not have registered that either. Whoever runs for POTUS in '24, it's certain that both candidates will be well-known people with lots of video material for training a model. It's also certain that many groups and individuals will be strongly vested in the outcome of the election, and some of them will have the resources to produce deepfakes at least as convincing as "Tom Cruise and Paris Hilton" here - this is no longer something that requires hardware worth millions to run for two months straight. There will be fake videos of the candidates doing/saying highly scandalous stuff. Going on a racist rant, expressing corrupt intent, promising illegal things, etc. And those videos, if somewhat intelligently produced, will have a big impact once they air, no matter if they can be definitively proven to be fake later.
- Reubend 4y agoLooks great. I think it's definitely possible to tell that it's fake if you already know that it's not a real video, but I probably wouldn't have noticed anything out of the ordinary if I weren't already primed to spot subtle issues in their faces.
- bberrry 4y agoI'd like to see the original for comparison
- ryanmcdonough 4y agoIt’s a deepfaked Tom Cruise, with the real Paris Hilton. https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2022/10/21/paris-hilton-fans-confused-as-fake-tom-cruise-appears-on-her-tiktok-again/ https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2022/10/21/paris-hilton-fans-conf... Still super impressive but it’s not two deep fakes at the same time.
- mellosouls 4y agoThe actor is a Tom Cruise look-alike as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Fisher https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_Fisher
- autoexec 4y agoOdd, although I'm not really very familiar with the appearance of either of them I somehow thought her face looked more fake than his did. I blame makeup unless they used some kind of filter.
- pocketarc 4y agoGive it a couple more years to iron out the kinks and throw in more resources, and even fewer people may be able to spot anything off (I already cannot - even knowing that it's fake, there's no way I'd ever think "wow this is a fake video"). This is either going to send a shockwave to society in the trust department (i.e. we'll have to absolutely distrust everything and everyone will have to adapt immediately), or we're in for a very, very rocky road where different people will walk around living in different realities where different things have happened (this is already the case, but more so when you can send a conspiracy theorist videos that -prove- everything they've been saying, and look completely real).
- flohofwoe 4y agoOr maybe people will just start requiring more evidence that something actually happened instead of believing everything they find on Tiktok (or the wider internet), which would actually be a good thing.
- hajhatten 4y agoVideo evidence may not be trusted as evidence in court in the future. Will we require something more perhaps? Or will the word of AI keen on spotting something's off be what we trust?
- autoexec 4y agoHas forensic analysis been defeated by a deep fake? At least in the courts cases won't depend on the jury being able to 'tell by the pixels' and instead experts will get called in. Whoever that ends up being, if they can do their job and authenticate a video at least as well as they already can with photoshops we should be fine. Photoshop didn't cause society to collapse and photoshop-for-video won't either.
- bryanrasmussen 4y ago>and instead experts will get called in. the defense often cannot afford experts. Also there is a long history of experts lying, in the U.S at least but I suppose elsewhere as well.
- js8 4y agoI find it hilarious that every time humankind invents a new unexpected technology, the first use cases are always entertainment. Other examples than deepfakes or ChatGPT: - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeolipile https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeolipile - first batteries were used on parties to run current through people for fun - first use of uranium was in phosphorescent paint
- stackbutterflow 4y agoFirst people have fun. Then the business people monetize it.
- flakeoil 4y agoOr maybe that's the first time other people (most people) hear about them? I'm quite sure the first usage of batteries was not "used on parties to run current through people for fun". Probably some boring scientists or engineers used them for other purposes long before that.
- rich_sasha 4y agoI wonder if porn industry will first see widespread adoption of deepfakes or jump straight to AI-generated humping. "Hi PornGPT, make me a film with X actor and Y actor doing so-and-so, culminating after 5 minutes - I'm in a rush".
- Nursie 4y agoDeepfake celeb porn is already illegal in some countries, IIRC, after it hit the media a few years ago.
- number6 4y agoEven regular porn is illegal in some countries. I guess people watch it anyway.
- hnbad 4y agoI'm not sure what point you're trying to make as nobody is arguing there isn't a (black) market for it. The difference between the illegality of porn and of deepfaked porn is that the former is usually based on a purely moral argument (e.g. "porn is sinful" and allowing sinful behavior "corrupts people with sin", leading to more - and worse - sinful behavior) whereas the latter is based on a lack of consent. Consent is the corner stone of most societies (it's what allows for contract law and thus the "social contract" to begin with). Note that deepfaked porn is illegal in every country in which regular porn is illegal, so clearly the concern isn't with the porn aspect of it. It's categorically more similar to revenge "porn" or CSAM in that the subjects of it don't (or can't) consent to its distribution (or even creation). Also note that in countries where deepfaked porn is illegal but regular porn is not, deepfaked porn produced with the consent of the actors and those lending their faces would usually be legal. Consent matters.
- gitanovic 4y agoIt's anyhow a moral argument, just based on different values. For example can you imagine to have sex with someone? Do you need their consent? How is it so much different to produce a deepfake for your own consumption only? I personally agree that consent matters, but I see many ways to contrast that argument
- jerrya 4y agoIt's really impressive, and even scary, but I get some uncanny valley from Tom's head, it at times gives off a 3D impression that it's popping out of the screen.
- paulpauper 4y agoThe neck is kinda off in the first second and 25 seconds in and seems to spill over the collar unnaturally, and the head seems too big. But otherwise very convincing. If someone did not tell me it was fake, I probably would not have noticed.
- gitanovic 4y agoYes, same here, once I knew it was a fake I started looking and the head looks glued on... without the tip, I might have unconsciously notice something was off, but would not be able to put my finger on it.
- ctack 4y agoMy bold prediction. Please hold me to this in 2 years /s.. Some video storage service or ‘authentication service middleman’ is going to make a mint with blockchain authenticity proofing. They’ll provide a seal of authenticity that the feed being viewed came direct from a camera. Feed will be checked during viewing as well to verify its ‘camera direct’ state.
- ctack 4y agoSo blockchain is not even needed,the main idea still stands though.
- mypastself 4y agoWhy would they need a blockchain for that? In either case you’d have to trust the company that their inputs, which are external to the network itself, are authentic.
- keyme 4y agoSo point the camera at a screen?
- derbOac 4y agoMaybe this is the application NFTs (with some tweaks) have been looking for. Someone will figure out how to crack it though, or the possibility will be plausible enough, and then we'll be at zero again.
- datacruncher01 4y agoHad the same idea a few years back. You don't need blockchain though, good old fashioned CAs will work. Use standard digital signatures on the keyframe data but that does necessitate a new video format standard. Good luck with that. You could probably DIY by overlaying a QR code signature on the video keyframe as a stopgap until an official format exists.
- alex_suzuki 4y agoThe implications of this really make me want to get into Deepfake-countering technology. Can anyone recommend some reading or other resources? What companies are working on this?
- wrldos 4y agoThis wasn’t the dystopian future I was promised. I much preferred the old one.
- ekianjo 4y agofirst part of the camera movement from oblique to straight the faked face on Cruise is very obvious.
- bob_paulson 4y agowhat, wait! This is not true? Been scammed by my own stupidity.
- Vanit 4y agoI can't quite articulate what it is, but there's a certain "glimmer" when his head turns a few times, but other than that this is shockingly convincing. If I wasn't primed to expect a deepfake I'd probably not even notice or question it.
- root_axis 4y agoHow much of this is "deep fake" and how much is a skilled lookalike impersonator?
- Fnoord 4y agoAs long as I immediately notice something's off I am not going to be impressed. I notice the neck is weird right away. A few seconds later I noticed the head is out of proportion in relation the body. I'm not the best at noticing picture deepfakes, but this one is obvious.