This! Riffing on your comment I think probably what a lot of going on is, what’s called and labeled as depression is really a highly diverse, multi faceted mult

This! Riffing on your comment I think probably what a lot of going on is, what’s called and labeled as depression is really a highly diverse, multi faceted multitude of different things for different people. So people come with a certain affect, certain behavior, and it gets labeled as depression, but actually what’s going on, is probably a whole range of distinctly (and likely because it’s complex: overlapping), pathologies, conditions, or whatever you wanna call them with different causes and different effective treatments and it’s all just getting lumped together. And one reason is because we just don’t know enough exactly as you say. Maybe one reason electroshock “works” (if it does and I’m speculating here and I feel like it sounds like a barbaric torturous medieval treatment) but maybe one reason is because it throws enough entropy into the brain to allow it to reset out of the local “optima” that it had settled into. And obviously there’s multiple you know assumptions going into that statement and I’m just speculating. Riffing on that comment I think it’s interesting to consider that the depressive response may actually be an adaptive evolutionarily response of the brain, the nervous system, the body, the endocrine system, whatever and I think it’s interesting to consider what that adaptation might be trying to achieve. Maybe depression is not the cause of unhappiness, but its result. The collection of symptoms is the result of unhappiness and a response by the body to try to slow somebody down when they’re sort of in a situation that the body brain system whatever has judged is dangerous or not good for them. And that danger may be to mental health or some thing so it’s basically a way to try to take somebody out of circulation to protect them. It’s the self trying to protect itself from a dangerous environment, whatever the parameters of that environment may be: social, environmental, work whatever. I was going to add my personal experience. I might be a bit of an anomaly. I have the full range of emotions, intensely experienced, and all kinds of crazy deep experiences in my life so far but I’ve never been depressed. And I always felt it was some thing I wasn’t gonna let happened to me: I was gonna Always find a way through and to keep moving through whatever situation. So I think in my case I mean riffing on what I previously said the depression response never came up because I always kept moving through whatever I was in and my body didn’t have to take me out of circulation, because I was always finding a way like actively to just keep going and doing what I want.