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Verificationism isn't some stunning riposte. Call it a god in the gaps if you'd like, but there's no straightforward route from matter -> qualia.

• msla 4y ago
  > Verificationism isn't some stunning riposte. No, it's the minimum required to be taken seriously.
  • daseiner1 4y ago
    That's a sophomoric philosophical position that is not endorsed by the majority of contemporary thinkers.
    • msla 4y ago
      "Does my idea about how the world works have anything to do with how the world works" is precisely the kind of question we had to start asking in order to begin to understand how the world works. Just having random ideas and demanding that the world conform to them is the mark of an ill-considered thinker. Also, majoritarianism isn't how philosophy works.
      • daseiner1 4y ago
        Do you understand the concept of qualia? There is no known way to establish whether all/most/some of life has inner experience. That doesn’t entail dismissing the question.
        • msla 4y ago
          > Do you understand the concept of qualia? I understand they lead to nonsense like p-zombies, yes. I understand they're a way to introduce nonsense like "souls" and "ghosts" while pretending you're not doing theology. Qualia are magic, and I mean that as an insult.
          • msla 4y ago
            I see that having an understanding of the downfalls of qualia is not allowed here.