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Nearly all U.S. mass attackers were male and faced major life stressor
- midoridensha 4y ago[flagged]
- sedivy94 4y agoEliminating violence implies eliminating people. Good luck digging ditches with an all-female society.
- lotsofpulp 4y agoThat is a weird example because from what I can tell, machines do a lot more ditch digging than humans, since a while now.
- juanani 4y ago[dead]
- defrost 4y agoI hate to break it to you but women operate 100 tonne Haul Paks, back-hoes, bob-cats, hand shovels, work as electricians, have engineering degrees, drive three trailer semi "road trains", et al here in Australia all the time. If you're unfamilar with heavy industry and farm work I let you into a secret .. Men move stuff they cannot lift all the time !! (Amazing!) Guess what, women do the same, the same way - with team work, machines, levers, etc.
- anonymouskimmer 4y agoWomen also commit some violent crimes, though in not nearly the numbers as men. It would be more expedient to just eliminate all humans. Perhaps they, I mean we, can be replaced with AI?
- mc32 4y agoThis is just eugenics with a shot of sexism. If you're going for that, you might also look for people with "problematic genes" or from problematic populations and decide you want to be more surgical too.
- bhawks 4y agoI struggle to understand how 'eliminating' 50% of society because of the actions of less than 0.0000003% makes any sense whatsoever. If you're not trolling, please seek help.
- sergiomattei 4y agoObvious bait
- kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y agoYou will have become the very thing you despise, only far far worse.
- ameminator 4y agoPlease, share this opinion more. I want others to understand how unhinged some opinions being shared are. This is basically misandry with some techno-magic nightmare dust sprinkled in.
- thwayunion 4y agoI somehow suspect you and OP are on the same (equally unhinged imo) side of this and you're having trouble recognizing fairly obvious sarcasm...
- ameminator 4y agoPossible - I'll just cite Poe's law here[0]. Sadly, I have heard non-sarcastic versions of this argument argued in quite serious ways. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law?wprov=sfla1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law?wprov=sfla1
- anonymouskimmer 4y agohttps://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/04/140401103007.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/04/140401103007.h... "Rates of rape, sexual assault and homicide are actually lower in societies with more men than women, the study found." "When men are abundant, rather than rare, they often switch their strategy to compete in nonviolent rather than violent ways. They tend to pursue females in more of a courtship manner that would lead to long-term relationships and marriage, in an attempt to secure a partner in a depleted market."
- datavirtue 4y agoSky is blue.
- abracadaniel 4y agoAs always, it’s still important to document the obvious. Particularly when denying elements of the basic context of an argument seems to be a successful way of shutting down inconvenient conversations.
- throwntoday 4y agoDon't forget the SSRI's
- henriquez 4y agoNot sure why downvoted. Eli Lily must answer for their crimes. The only solution is severe punishment.
- mc32 4y agoThe stressors are mostly things faced by a great number of people. A few decades back there was the trope of postal workers being the protagonists of attacks but that seems to have been addressed. (either screening better or the work isn’t driving them up a wall any more). But these new guys. I don’t know. Short of confiscating all arms and other means of violence (knives, pipe bombs, etc.) I think we can drive a different narrative in Hollywood, music, video games, the news, etc. It’s now a culturally learned thing. We’ve always had guns, but the mass shootings seem to be increasing faster than gun ownership (correct me if I’m wrong, not gun sales but ownership -as in one person buying ten isn’t 10 more owners but one, if he’d didn’t previously own one)
- AtlasBarfed 4y agoI think Chris Rock has the right idea. Smack a MASSIVE tax on ammunition. Make illegal ammunition a BIG crime. I'm talking ammo should be $50/bullet. "I've got that bullet on layaway, as soon as I pay it off, you're dead MF'er!"
- mc32 4y agoAmmo isn't hard to make (or smuggle in). If you tax it massively, there will be a black market for it. We see that with Tobacco and Marijuana --both of which have legal options with medium taxes and illegal but no taxes.
- asdff 4y agoThere will always be a black market for it, but making it harder to get means these crimes are overall less likely to occur. Consider the Monterey Park shooting. The killer used a gun they bought legally and was granfathered in, and shot ammo they also bought legally, to commit a crime of passion in the moment. This wasn't some criminal tapped into the underworld who would be able to source black market ammo. This was a pretty boring 73 year old man who bought it from the store. Take out that access to these weapons, and that crime would not have occurred in that manner. That being said, most gun violence in this country isn't of a mass shooting or a organized crime nature. Most deaths from guns are suicides. Half of all intimate partner homicides are from a gun. Just from having a gun present in the home, a women in an abusive relationship is now 5x more likely to be murdered. These aren't cases where people seek out illegal arms dealers, they happen because the gun is in easy access. There's a reason why this country faces so much gun violence compared to countries that have more sensible positions on gun ownership, and its because of the ease of legal access.
- bhawks 4y agoBased on the linked report it is clear that these disturbed individuals see commiting mass killings as a way of getting society in general, their families or objects of obsession to listen to their grievances. (Desire for fame, parting messages/videos for families and others). If we reported on these incidents with a similar approach to suicides (minimal focus on the individual, no discussion of motivations, offering of therapy and support services) there would be a general decline in these tragedies. The tabloid sensationalism and Internet arm chair detectives are giving these sad people the platform they're looking for with disastrous results.
- frozenport 4y agoDoubt. Individuals feel assaulted by society independent of reporting.
- mc32 4y agoTrue but what has allowed it to become "an option" for these people? It's pronounced in the US, but mass violence (not just shootings, but bombings, knivings, mass vehicular assaults, etc) has increased beyond population growth, I think?
- blackshaw 4y agoThere have always been individuals who feel assaulted by society; what has changed to make these attacks more frequent? (If they are becoming more frequent; I definitely hear about them more frequently but it may be an illusion, someone tell me if I'm wrong.)
- bhawks 4y agoIf they just wanted to do as much damage on the way out as possible they wouldn't be spending so much effort on manifestos, video messages, letters and so on. They wouldn't care about becoming famous. Read the report - there is a huge focus on planning. These individuals see this as a way of being heard and sending a message. The way we talk about these incidents play right into the delusional fantasies of future perpetrators.
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- gsatic 4y agoRecently someone gave me this book called "Difficult Men" by Brett Martin. Nope wasnt about mass shootings. It was about the protagonists created in the most popular TV shows in the US and the minds of the writers behind them. So Sopranos, Mad Men, Dexter, Breaking Bad, The Wire, Deadwood, Six Feet Under etc etc. Its a super impressive and ever expanding list of writing. But the common thread is dysfunction. They are all coping badly with whatever situation they are thrown into or run into. And the costs and consequences keep building up and nothing ends too happily. While reading it I was feeling, this too is a sort of mass attack on the minds of people. Cause its a hope and faith killer. The message is always - here is some entertaining and mesmerizing hypocrisy your small chimp brain hasn't imagined and guess what? Whatever move you make you loose. After reading that book, I see that same message in stand up comedy, in the news media, in tech and business news etc. Probably exacerbated since social media finds and amplifies such things. But I feel the messaging and signaling underneath really needs to be different.
- blacksmithgu 4y agoViolent crime in general is dominated by men who have faced "major life stressors"; it's just a fact of life that is unlikely to ever change. Men are much more likely to react to heavy stress violently, and struggle to both find and accept help. Finding men who may be going down a dark path is a good first step, but genuinely helping such individuals (beyond trite therapy) is challenging. I suspect the problem is only going to get worse as society becomes more and more isolating.
- barbariangrunge 4y ago> 57% were white and 34% were Black. > Nearly all the attackers experienced "at least one significant stressor" within five years of the attack, most of which were issues with family and romantic relationships. 20% of the attackers experienced some kind of childhood trauma These numbers aren’t very helpful without knowing the stats for non mass attackers. Eg, almost everyone I know has suffered a significant stressor in the last five years, and that’s just the people who have been willing to talk about it.
- 1letterunixname 4y agoThis delves into territory of stereotyping and discrimination. There are no simple answers.