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Why is Tesla FSD afraid of the dark?

33 points by mcolyer 4y ago

clouddrover 4y ago
Missing hardware doesn't inspire confidence. You probably won't get Hardware 4 either: https://www.thedrive.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-gets-new-self-driving-computer-that-might-not-be-retrofit-to-other-evs https://www.thedrive.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-gets-new-self... Full self-driving hasn't happened. At this point Tesla should refund everyone's FSD money.
- sixQuarks 4y ago
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- pifm_guy 4y ago
  FSD actually isn't a big part of what Tesla sells. They have $1B set aside from sales revenues of the FSD option to pay for implementation. That sounds like a big number, but it's less than the revenue of 2 days car production.
  - clouddrover 4y ago
    Good, then there's no reason to rip people off in the meantime. Refund the money now and only charge customers money if and when they deliver actual factual full self-driving. Tesla backed themselves into this corner. They have lied about the state of full self-driving for years and they have failed to deliver on their own self imposed deadlines. Teslas don't even do full self-parking, nevermind full self-driving: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsb2XBAIWyA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsb2XBAIWyA Tesla admits they have failed to deliver (as an attempt to avoid being done for fraud): https://electrek.co/2022/12/07/tesla-self-driving-claims-failure-realize-long-term-aspirational-goal-not-fraud/ https://electrek.co/2022/12/07/tesla-self-driving-claims-fai... https://electrek.co/2022/12/12/tesla-ordered-upgrade-self-driving-computer-for-free-false-advertising/ https://electrek.co/2022/12/12/tesla-ordered-upgrade-self-dr... So, now that Tesla has done the hard thing of admitting to their failure, they can do the easy thing of returning the money.
    - rep_movsd 4y ago
      You committed financial suicide by believing a conman
hgsgm 4y ago
I thought FSD != Autopilot
Reubend 4y ago
It's worth pointing out and placing IR lighting in front of yourself could damage your vision. https://ehs.lbl.gov/resource/documents/radiation-protection/non-ionizing-radiation/light-and-infrared-radiation/ https://ehs.lbl.gov/resource/documents/radiation-protection/... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3116568/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3116568/
rep_movsd 4y ago
"Driver assist" not FSD
brookst 4y ago
Alternatively you could mount a 40w 6500k LED fixture in that same spot to replicate the experience oncoming drivers have when your FSD system keeps brights on all the time ;)
- mcolyer 4y ago
  Hah - fair point :).
- Waterluvian 4y ago
  I never really realized it until I watched the Technology Connections video about headlights, but now I notice it all the time: improper use of high beams or improperly aimed headlights are horribly selfish and dangerous for others. I’m loving some of the tech there is to shape the beam based on oncoming vehicles. But even just being in front of a car with headlights aiming right into your cabin is terrible.
amalgamated_inc 4y ago
Lol that's pretty... silly of Tesla :)

33 points by mcolyer 4y ago

Missing hardware doesn't inspire confidence. You probably won't get Hardware 4 either: https://www.thedrive.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-gets-new-self-driving-computer-that-might-not-be-retrofit-to-other-evs https://www.thedrive.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-gets-new-self... Full self-driving hasn't happened. At this point Tesla should refund everyone's FSD money.

sixQuarks 4y ago
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pifm_guy 4y ago
FSD actually isn't a big part of what Tesla sells. They have $1B set aside from sales revenues of the FSD option to pay for implementation. That sounds like a big number, but it's less than the revenue of 2 days car production.
- clouddrover 4y ago
  Good, then there's no reason to rip people off in the meantime. Refund the money now and only charge customers money if and when they deliver actual factual full self-driving. Tesla backed themselves into this corner. They have lied about the state of full self-driving for years and they have failed to deliver on their own self imposed deadlines. Teslas don't even do full self-parking, nevermind full self-driving: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsb2XBAIWyA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsb2XBAIWyA Tesla admits they have failed to deliver (as an attempt to avoid being done for fraud): https://electrek.co/2022/12/07/tesla-self-driving-claims-failure-realize-long-term-aspirational-goal-not-fraud/ https://electrek.co/2022/12/07/tesla-self-driving-claims-fai... https://electrek.co/2022/12/12/tesla-ordered-upgrade-self-driving-computer-for-free-false-advertising/ https://electrek.co/2022/12/12/tesla-ordered-upgrade-self-dr... So, now that Tesla has done the hard thing of admitting to their failure, they can do the easy thing of returning the money.
  - rep_movsd 4y ago
    You committed financial suicide by believing a conman

hgsgm 4y ago

I thought FSD != Autopilot

Reubend 4y ago

It's worth pointing out and placing IR lighting in front of yourself could damage your vision. https://ehs.lbl.gov/resource/documents/radiation-protection/non-ionizing-radiation/light-and-infrared-radiation/ https://ehs.lbl.gov/resource/documents/radiation-protection/... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3116568/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3116568/

rep_movsd 4y ago

"Driver assist" not FSD

brookst 4y ago

Alternatively you could mount a 40w 6500k LED fixture in that same spot to replicate the experience oncoming drivers have when your FSD system keeps brights on all the time ;)

mcolyer 4y ago
Hah - fair point :).
Waterluvian 4y ago
I never really realized it until I watched the Technology Connections video about headlights, but now I notice it all the time: improper use of high beams or improperly aimed headlights are horribly selfish and dangerous for others. I’m loving some of the tech there is to shape the beam based on oncoming vehicles. But even just being in front of a car with headlights aiming right into your cabin is terrible.

amalgamated_inc 4y ago

Lol that's pretty... silly of Tesla :)