> But another reason I don't use Node is simply because JS sucks, even when compared to PHP < 7. It's a poorly designed language that requires multiple layers o

> But another reason I don't use Node is simply because JS sucks, even when compared to PHP < 7. It's a poorly designed language that requires multiple layers of tooling just to make it acceptable for use in larger projects. And again, when the ecosystem is changing so often any tooling you're using needs to be updated constantly. TypeScript, ignoring about half the language features many of which are "oh my god please never actually use this" (e.g. all the distinctive features of prototypal OO), and finally being able to concisely tell the language to please let you treat async calls the way everyone's always wanted to be able to treat them 90% of the time for the entire existence of JavaScript and Node (async/await) has made the language downright tolerable. The culture and ecosystem still blows, though, you're not wrong there.