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Years back at ZendCon (maybe 2011 or 2012?) one of the keynotes mentioned they liked ZendFramework over something from Java* because they can hire developers ch

• yamtaddle 4y ago
  Same, I've always liked PHP pretty well (outside shitshow frameworks/platforms like Wordpress, anyway) but actively avoid looking for jobs in it because of the pay and the stigma (which could affect ability to transition back out of it again—thank god I got out the first time before it'd fallen as far in common regard as it has now). Last time I applied to a PHP shop I killed in the interview, was in the wrap-up where it was totally obvious I was at least a front-runner if not a shoe-in, then watched everyone's faces go white when I named a comp figure. They quickly and politely ushered me out with some "we'll get back to you" niceties. I wasn't trying to be a dick, but after I left I realized I'd probably given a number higher than anyone in that room was making except maybe the owner, and I was not pushing the boundaries of normal comp for a senior dev (what they claimed they wanted in the job listing) in my area. Whoops. Never should have even applied, mea culpa. [EDIT] Incidentally, this is one reason why it'd be nice if places put comp ranges in listings, and it's why I make sure our notions are at least in the same ballpark up-front, now—I'm never again putting more than a couple minutes into an interview process before making sure we're not irreconcilably far apart on that, since it's a waste of everyone's time if we are.