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Strongly disagree, IP law (despite it's misuse by a certain mouse mascot'd company) is extremely important and protecting artists work and their livelihood. Th

Strongly disagree, IP law (despite it's misuse by a certain mouse mascot'd company) is extremely important and protecting artists work and their livelihood. The price floor on art commissions is already very low and AI effectively makes that cost zero, while providing zero compensation to the thousands of artists. Without their work, there's no Stability AI. From an ethical standpoint Stability is in the wrong, and from a legal one I think the class has a very strong case to recover damages.

astrange 4y ago
StableDiffusion is not based on art commissions. You can search https://rom1504.github.io/clip-retrieval/ https://rom1504.github.io/clip-retrieval/ and see what kind of nonsense it usually has trained on.
- GaryNumanVevo 4y ago
  It most definitely is, LAION-5B contains a large amount of copyrighted works from DeviantArt, ArtStation, etc.
  - astrange 4y ago
    Are those all commissions? The aesthetic subset is .05% Artstation: https://laion-aesthetic.datasette.io/laion-aesthetic-6pls/images?_sort=rowid&url__contains=artstation https://laion-aesthetic.datasette.io/laion-aesthetic-6pls/im... Not sure if that's a large amount or not. They could've used robots.txt if they didn't want to be indexed.
    - GaryNumanVevo 4y ago
      > Note that this is only a small subset of the total training data: about 2% of the 600 million images used to train the most recent three checkpoints, and only 0.5% of the 2.3 billion images that it was first trained on. [1] That dataset only covers "aesthetic" clip terms as well. Not to mention a lot of images come from Pinterest and other aggregators. [1] https://waxy.org/2022/08/exploring-12-million-of-the-images-used-to-train-stable-diffusions-image-generator/ https://waxy.org/2022/08/exploring-12-million-of-the-images-...

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Strongly disagree, IP law (despite it's misuse by a certain mouse mascot'd company) is extremely important and protecting artists work and their livelihood. Th

by GaryNumanVevo 4y ago

astrange 4y ago
StableDiffusion is not based on art commissions. You can search https://rom1504.github.io/clip-retrieval/ https://rom1504.github.io/clip-retrieval/ and see what kind of nonsense it usually has trained on.
- GaryNumanVevo 4y ago
  It most definitely is, LAION-5B contains a large amount of copyrighted works from DeviantArt, ArtStation, etc.
  - astrange 4y ago
    Are those all commissions? The aesthetic subset is .05% Artstation: https://laion-aesthetic.datasette.io/laion-aesthetic-6pls/images?_sort=rowid&url__contains=artstation https://laion-aesthetic.datasette.io/laion-aesthetic-6pls/im... Not sure if that's a large amount or not. They could've used robots.txt if they didn't want to be indexed.
    - GaryNumanVevo 4y ago
      > Note that this is only a small subset of the total training data: about 2% of the 600 million images used to train the most recent three checkpoints, and only 0.5% of the 2.3 billion images that it was first trained on. [1] That dataset only covers "aesthetic" clip terms as well. Not to mention a lot of images come from Pinterest and other aggregators. [1] https://waxy.org/2022/08/exploring-12-million-of-the-images-used-to-train-stable-diffusions-image-generator/ https://waxy.org/2022/08/exploring-12-million-of-the-images-...