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Amazon warns employees not to share confidential information with ChatGPT

adriancr 4y ago
Isn't that a fireable offense?, isn't it a sufficient deterrent?, detect leak, instant fire, doesn't matter who it was. Also, if they sue for damages and/or they disclose reason for firing to future possible employers, then career in field is rightfully damaged.
uptownfunk 4y ago
Good luck with that!
sharemywin 4y ago
I've been wondering about this too. chatbots should have a private switch. where they're contractually obligated to delete the information as soon as it's sent.
- brianjking 4y ago
  First off, ChatGPT is currently free. Assuming you are using it, you are becoming part of the product.
  - sharemywin 4y ago
    I think they're offering a paid version. which goes along way toward the alignment problem with advertising. you want to keep making my $40 offer a better bot. The question is do you as a company turn away the opportunity to incorporate ads into the products. (paid for advice) chatbot as a service is a good business model, but free chatbot with subtle ads is a way bigger opportunity.
- generj 4y ago
  Probably with some sort of exception for certain things. I don’t want a chatbot unable to reveal someone confessing to murder for example.
- autoexec 4y ago
  I wouldn't trust it. What is a contract with a bot? Who will hold it accountable and how?
  - sharemywin 4y ago
    that's true for all the internet/cloud providers. I'm not sure how you enforce transparency. That's one of the problems with private marketplaces( and service providers) too.
fragmede 4y ago
I mean, that's a business model for OpenAI. charge business thru the nose to host their own and be able to give it confidential information.
sharemywin 4y ago
sometimes it's possible to have it make a program that does what you want. instead of going through our file structure I had it built a program to do it
sschueller 4y ago
I thought chatGPT can't learn new things. So anything you tell it, it will forget? If you ask it, it will tell you it can't be trained or learn new things.
- brianjking 4y ago
  No, not at all. It said it's not trained on new data (yet). It does not say it cannot learn or will not learn. Furthermore, https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6783457-chatgpt-faq https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6783457-chatgpt-faq has the AUP & TOS pretty clearly laid out.
- lapink 4y ago
  Open AI is logging everything for future training. I don’t think Open AI employees actively look at the logged data, but they likely have people rate the exchanges or suggest replies, so that could be a source of leaks. Besides in 6 months / 1 year, when an updated version is released, Chat GPT might very well spit out some private info information.
  - __derek__ 4y ago
    That kind of review caused a stir for Apple and Amazon, leading both to curtail the practice.[1] [1]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/08/02/apple-says-its-contractors-will-stop-listening-users-through-siri/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/08/02/apple-s...
- wcoenen 4y ago
  OpenAI will store all your conversations with ChatGPT. We know this because those conversations appear on the left-hand side of the website where you interact with ChatGPT...
- rasz 4y ago
  Everything you enter into chatGPT is logged. https://openai.com/privacy/ https://openai.com/privacy/

Isn't that a fireable offense?, isn't it a sufficient deterrent?, detect leak, instant fire, doesn't matter who it was. Also, if they sue for damages and/or they disclose reason for firing to future possible employers, then career in field is rightfully damaged.

uptownfunk 4y ago

Good luck with that!

sharemywin 4y ago

I've been wondering about this too. chatbots should have a private switch. where they're contractually obligated to delete the information as soon as it's sent.

brianjking 4y ago
First off, ChatGPT is currently free. Assuming you are using it, you are becoming part of the product.
- sharemywin 4y ago
  I think they're offering a paid version. which goes along way toward the alignment problem with advertising. you want to keep making my $40 offer a better bot. The question is do you as a company turn away the opportunity to incorporate ads into the products. (paid for advice) chatbot as a service is a good business model, but free chatbot with subtle ads is a way bigger opportunity.
generj 4y ago
Probably with some sort of exception for certain things. I don’t want a chatbot unable to reveal someone confessing to murder for example.
autoexec 4y ago
I wouldn't trust it. What is a contract with a bot? Who will hold it accountable and how?
- sharemywin 4y ago
  that's true for all the internet/cloud providers. I'm not sure how you enforce transparency. That's one of the problems with private marketplaces( and service providers) too.

fragmede 4y ago

I mean, that's a business model for OpenAI. charge business thru the nose to host their own and be able to give it confidential information.

sharemywin 4y ago

sometimes it's possible to have it make a program that does what you want. instead of going through our file structure I had it built a program to do it

sschueller 4y ago

I thought chatGPT can't learn new things. So anything you tell it, it will forget? If you ask it, it will tell you it can't be trained or learn new things.

brianjking 4y ago
No, not at all. It said it's not trained on new data (yet). It does not say it cannot learn or will not learn. Furthermore, https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6783457-chatgpt-faq https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6783457-chatgpt-faq has the AUP & TOS pretty clearly laid out.
lapink 4y ago
Open AI is logging everything for future training. I don’t think Open AI employees actively look at the logged data, but they likely have people rate the exchanges or suggest replies, so that could be a source of leaks. Besides in 6 months / 1 year, when an updated version is released, Chat GPT might very well spit out some private info information.
- __derek__ 4y ago
  That kind of review caused a stir for Apple and Amazon, leading both to curtail the practice.[1] [1]: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/08/02/apple-says-its-contractors-will-stop-listening-users-through-siri/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/08/02/apple-s...
wcoenen 4y ago
OpenAI will store all your conversations with ChatGPT. We know this because those conversations appear on the left-hand side of the website where you interact with ChatGPT...
rasz 4y ago
Everything you enter into chatGPT is logged. https://openai.com/privacy/ https://openai.com/privacy/