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Even if one believes in forced labor in order to provide goods and services to those in need, are you really drawing some sort of parallel where people should b

Even if one believes in forced labor in order to provide goods and services to those in need, are you really drawing some sort of parallel where people should be compelled to perform sexual favors for others? I mean one could be a full on communist and not think that state provided prostitution (where people would be assigned those jobs by the state) is ethical. Didn't think I'd see apologism for something akin to North Korea's "pleasure Squad" on Hacker News, but alright then.

PaulHoule 4y ago
I didn't say anything like that. What I would like to do is disallow use of the concept of "entitlement" particularly "you are not entitled to..." in conversation. There are many other arguments people could make, they don't need that one. There is a theme in psychology going back to the Freudian days that female desire has a self-destructive aspect (e.g. "masochism"), we all know the woman who dates one bad boyfriend and then finds another bad boyfriend and another bad boyfriend. It's a subject that has been suppressed in serious discussion though because it is perceived to be antifeminist. I think it's going to come back. Roughly it seems that many men are unhappy with their relationship prospects at age 20 but by age 40 many women have been going out with the men that they desire and found that none of them want to commit to the long-term relationship because... they all want the same few guys! It could be if women had a more realistic understanding of their life course and prospects they'd realize what a dead end it is to be dating the guys they want and learn to want some guy that is not so exciting but that has the potential to be loyal... A solution looks something like that, not having state-endorsed prostitution or anything.
- Dracophoenix 4y ago
  > What I would like to do is disallow use of the concept of "entitlement" particularly "you are not entitled to..." in conversation. Why do you think the phrase shouldn't be allowed in this particular conversation?

PaulHoule 4y ago

I didn't say anything like that. What I would like to do is disallow use of the concept of "entitlement" particularly "you are not entitled to..." in conversation. There are many other arguments people could make, they don't need that one. There is a theme in psychology going back to the Freudian days that female desire has a self-destructive aspect (e.g. "masochism"), we all know the woman who dates one bad boyfriend and then finds another bad boyfriend and another bad boyfriend. It's a subject that has been suppressed in serious discussion though because it is perceived to be antifeminist. I think it's going to come back. Roughly it seems that many men are unhappy with their relationship prospects at age 20 but by age 40 many women have been going out with the men that they desire and found that none of them want to commit to the long-term relationship because... they all want the same few guys! It could be if women had a more realistic understanding of their life course and prospects they'd realize what a dead end it is to be dating the guys they want and learn to want some guy that is not so exciting but that has the potential to be loyal... A solution looks something like that, not having state-endorsed prostitution or anything.

Dracophoenix 4y ago
> What I would like to do is disallow use of the concept of "entitlement" particularly "you are not entitled to..." in conversation. Why do you think the phrase shouldn't be allowed in this particular conversation?