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100% this. How many acts of violence by lonely men would be avoided if they had just had the opportunity to go out, drop $150 and have sex. Especially sex that

100% this. How many acts of violence by lonely men would be avoided if they had just had the opportunity to go out, drop $150 and have sex. Especially sex that catered to whatever fetish they happened to indulge in. I have no scientific numbers to back this but I am willing to be the answer is "a lot". I feel like if an isolated, angry virgin was able to have sex in a non judgmental environment they would lose their hostility and likely be all the better for it.

pmarreck 4y ago
Here are your numbers: The time Rhode Island "accidentally" legalized prostitution for a number of years, and then made it illegal again, and the correlations to public health that seemed to result from this: https://whyy.org/articles/prostitution-decriminalized-rhode-islands-experiment/ https://whyy.org/articles/prostitution-decriminalized-rhode-... Scroll down to the section "Researchers take notice" if you are low on time. They used surrounding states as a control. They tried hard to account for the consequences, but that pesky 40% drop in gonorrhea and 30% drop in rapes (!) just wouldn't go away (and also doesn't fit the feminist narrative that rape is "only about power")
tsimionescu 4y ago
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JeremyBanks 4y ago
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giraffe_lady 4y ago
And I don't see how there's anything to back up this assumption. It seems to me more likely that men expressing misogyny online would also express it in person. Sex workers may individually choose to tolerate that or may not, but either way this opportunity exists now and this problem still persists.
- pmarreck 4y ago
  > And I don't see how there's anything to back up this assumption I present to you, some pretty good data: the time Rhode Island "accidentally" legalized prostitution for a number of years, and then made it illegal again, and the correlations to public health that seemed to result from this: https://whyy.org/articles/prostitution-decriminalized-rhode-islands-experiment/ https://whyy.org/articles/prostitution-decriminalized-rhode-... Scroll down to the section "Researchers take notice" if you are low on time. They used surrounding states as a control. They tried hard to account for the consequences, but that pesky 40% drop in gonorrhea and 30% drop in rapes (!) just wouldn't go away (and also doesn't fit the feminist narrative that rape is "only about power") There's also no convincing evidence (just cherrypicked data that is either pro- or con-) that legalizing prostitution results in more sex trafficking. > Sex workers may individually choose to tolerate that or may not Funny thing about you saying that, they can't choose anything if it's illegal- if it's legal, they can not only choose, they can bring legal charges against anyone who mistreats them.
matheusmoreira 4y ago
> How many acts of violence by lonely men would be avoided if they had just had the opportunity to Zero. It's not about the sex. It's about value and self-worth. It's about being selected. It's about being chosen by the person who could have chosen anyone. When people are rejected by other human beings, they are literally being told they are worthless. Wouldn't you turn violent if you were told you were worthless your entire life? Prostitution is an incredibly dismissive and superficial solution to the so called "incels" and it's going to fail for the exact same reasons as sex bots solution that's often proposed: it's not genuine human acceptance.
- pmarreck 4y ago
  False. Sometimes, it IS "just about the sex." Here we go: The time Rhode Island "accidentally" legalized prostitution for a number of years, and then made it illegal again, and the correlations to public health that seemed to result from this: https://whyy.org/articles/prostitution-decriminalized-rhode-islands-experiment/ https://whyy.org/articles/prostitution-decriminalized-rhode-... Scroll down to the section "Researchers take notice" if you are low on time. They used surrounding states as a control. They tried hard to account for the consequences, but that pesky 40% drop in gonorrhea and 30% drop in rapes (!) just wouldn't go away (and also doesn't fit the feminist narrative that rape is "only about power", i.e., it IS "about sex", at least sometimes) Sometimes, you don't need "genuine human acceptance." Sometimes, the only thing that will clear your head is that you just need to fuck. At least for some portion of men (and possibly, just to be inclusive here, women).

pmarreck 4y ago

Here are your numbers: The time Rhode Island "accidentally" legalized prostitution for a number of years, and then made it illegal again, and the correlations to public health that seemed to result from this: https://whyy.org/articles/prostitution-decriminalized-rhode-islands-experiment/ https://whyy.org/articles/prostitution-decriminalized-rhode-... Scroll down to the section "Researchers take notice" if you are low on time. They used surrounding states as a control. They tried hard to account for the consequences, but that pesky 40% drop in gonorrhea and 30% drop in rapes (!) just wouldn't go away (and also doesn't fit the feminist narrative that rape is "only about power")

tsimionescu 4y ago

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giraffe_lady 4y ago

And I don't see how there's anything to back up this assumption. It seems to me more likely that men expressing misogyny online would also express it in person. Sex workers may individually choose to tolerate that or may not, but either way this opportunity exists now and this problem still persists.

pmarreck 4y ago
> And I don't see how there's anything to back up this assumption I present to you, some pretty good data: the time Rhode Island "accidentally" legalized prostitution for a number of years, and then made it illegal again, and the correlations to public health that seemed to result from this: https://whyy.org/articles/prostitution-decriminalized-rhode-islands-experiment/ https://whyy.org/articles/prostitution-decriminalized-rhode-... Scroll down to the section "Researchers take notice" if you are low on time. They used surrounding states as a control. They tried hard to account for the consequences, but that pesky 40% drop in gonorrhea and 30% drop in rapes (!) just wouldn't go away (and also doesn't fit the feminist narrative that rape is "only about power") There's also no convincing evidence (just cherrypicked data that is either pro- or con-) that legalizing prostitution results in more sex trafficking. > Sex workers may individually choose to tolerate that or may not Funny thing about you saying that, they can't choose anything if it's illegal- if it's legal, they can not only choose, they can bring legal charges against anyone who mistreats them.

matheusmoreira 4y ago

> How many acts of violence by lonely men would be avoided if they had just had the opportunity to Zero. It's not about the sex. It's about value and self-worth. It's about being selected. It's about being chosen by the person who could have chosen anyone. When people are rejected by other human beings, they are literally being told they are worthless. Wouldn't you turn violent if you were told you were worthless your entire life? Prostitution is an incredibly dismissive and superficial solution to the so called "incels" and it's going to fail for the exact same reasons as sex bots solution that's often proposed: it's not genuine human acceptance.

pmarreck 4y ago
False. Sometimes, it IS "just about the sex." Here we go: The time Rhode Island "accidentally" legalized prostitution for a number of years, and then made it illegal again, and the correlations to public health that seemed to result from this: https://whyy.org/articles/prostitution-decriminalized-rhode-islands-experiment/ https://whyy.org/articles/prostitution-decriminalized-rhode-... Scroll down to the section "Researchers take notice" if you are low on time. They used surrounding states as a control. They tried hard to account for the consequences, but that pesky 40% drop in gonorrhea and 30% drop in rapes (!) just wouldn't go away (and also doesn't fit the feminist narrative that rape is "only about power", i.e., it IS "about sex", at least sometimes) Sometimes, you don't need "genuine human acceptance." Sometimes, the only thing that will clear your head is that you just need to fuck. At least for some portion of men (and possibly, just to be inclusive here, women).