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This sounds like, "let people just live however they want to live and it will be okay" the problem with this sentiment is that it is causing exactly what we are

This sounds like, "let people just live however they want to live and it will be okay" the problem with this sentiment is that it is causing exactly what we are seeing, an enormous number of young men just intend to play video games, watch porn, and smoke weed. They contribute nothing to society and get very little in return and we are starting to see the effects of that. The other side of that is how many people who choose to go that route have unintended effects on others. My own father decided that he want to live his life and reject his traditional role by leaving my mother and going out to party. Now you have six children who ended up without the things a father can provide in their lives. The problem is that with so much emphasis on the individual we have lost the importance of responsiblity.

krapp 4y ago
>This sounds like, "let people just live however they want to live and it will be okay" Less that (although yes) and more "let people define manhood however they like." That's an entirely different argument than individualism versus collectivism. Plenty of men have been bad husbands and fathers within the traditional framework of acting as breadwinner. A lot of men are simply assholes (no specific offense to your father, mine was little different.) That model of masculinity brings a lot of toxic elements with it, including the premise that men should be sexually promiscuous and aggressive, that it's simply in their nature. It often reinforces and, through popular media, commoditizes harmful behavior.