> I meant real software. Not web anything. Now that sounds way more gatekeeper-y than what you complained about before. Websites and web apps are by and large

> I meant real software. Not web anything. Now that sounds way more gatekeeper-y than what you complained about before. Websites and web apps are by and large terrible in terms of UI and UX and would benefit a lot from people who know what they are doing in terms of design of the user-facing parts. Still, they are the software a lot of people interact with for a significant chunk of the time they spend on a computer.