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> I.e its equivalent of a person effectively studying the actual law and then representing themselves in court, just in a more optimal manner. It's not equival
by NoboruWataya 4y ago
> I.e its equivalent of a person effectively studying the actual law and then representing themselves in court, just in a more optimal manner.
It's not equivalent at all. ChatGPT and DaVinci have not "studied the law" in the same way as any human would.
> If law firms believed it was bullshit, they would just put a very good attorney on that case and disprove it. Barring it from entry with threat of jailtime pretty much proves that they are full of shit and they know it.
This is a traffic ticket case. He's not up against Sullivan & Cromwell, he's up against some local prosecutor. I'm sure if some white shoe law firm were being paid hundreds of thousands to defend a case against a guy using ChatGPT, they'd be fine with it.
Even though we have an adversarial system, the state can't just let ordinary folk hang themselves with cheap half-baked "solutions". It would be unjust/bad press (delete as appropriate to your level of cynicism). That's why we have licensing requirements, etc.
- ActorNightly 4y agoThink of chatgpt as a search engine. Does it matter if you use a search engine before the trial, and perhaps bringing a big ass binder to the court with all possible responses, or you do it during the trial? And any lawyer that can go against gpt3 and win will be a net benefit to the whole law community, showing that lawyers are worth the money.
- xienze 4y ago> the state can't just let ordinary folk hang themselves with cheap half-baked "solutions". Why hasn't the practice of self-representation been banned then? It's almost without exception a surefire way to hang oneself in a court room.
- notahacker 4y agoSelf representation doesn't involve some mountebank selling you a "robot lawyer that will get you off your parking ticket" solution
- xienze 4y agoSo what if I just decided of my own accord to use ChatGPT and train it myself? Or someone on GitHub made a fully trained version of it available in a Docker container, for free?
- notahacker 4y agoThen nobody would issue legal threats to you for selling "Robot Lawyer" services. But you probably wouldn't get permission to use Google Glass in the courtroom either, so you'd have to commit your legal arguments to memory as well as hoping the AI hadn't ingested too much "freeman of the land" nonsense...
- rkachowski 4y agoWhat's the difference between self representation and practicing law without a license - is there an exemption for unlicensed practitioners when they are performing on their own behalf, or this is a distinct category somehow?