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> I dredged up those original mac guides and they were very helpful. which are mostly from NextSTEP as described in the "NextSTEP user interface guidelines" f

> I dredged up those original mac guides and they were very helpful. which are mostly from NextSTEP as described in the "NextSTEP user interface guidelines" first published in 1992 and later by Sun as "OpenStep User Interface Guidelines" in 1996 (pdf) https://gnustep.github.io/resources/documentation/OpenStepUserInterfaceGuidelines.pdf https://gnustep.github.io/resources/documentation/OpenStepUs...

grogenaut 4y ago
Nope... This was pre-next... This was for the original mac which I tried to code for when I was 8 or so probably around 85 as we had a very earlyac my dad was extremely excited about but left to me and my mom to learn as he couldn't type.
- peoplefromibiza 4y ago
  my previous comment about it https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34531184 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34531184 Apple has always been good at copying and (sometimes) improve things. But mostly they have been good at selling stuff to the richest segment of the population. Similarly to what Prada did with bags (before becoming a luxury brand focused on women, Prada made bags for the Italian Royal Household). There's no shame in it, but I don't get why people try to credit Apple for things that have not been invented by Apple. In this particular case, Xerox and NextSTEP did a lot of research on the matter, that Apple benefited from, because their core business was that: research.
kergonath 4y ago
Depending on what the OP mean by "original", these could very well be the Mac guidelines from 1984, which significantly predate NeXT's (which were also heavily inspired by the work of the Mac team for obvious reasons).
- peoplefromibiza 4y ago
  You mean Xerox Star user interface from 1981? :) video from 1982 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn4vC80Pv6Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn4vC80Pv6Q that notoriously Steve Jobs saw and copied for the Lisa? > which were also heavily inspired by the work of the Mac team for obvious reasons [citation needed]

grogenaut 4y ago

Nope... This was pre-next... This was for the original mac which I tried to code for when I was 8 or so probably around 85 as we had a very earlyac my dad was extremely excited about but left to me and my mom to learn as he couldn't type.

peoplefromibiza 4y ago
my previous comment about it https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34531184 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34531184 Apple has always been good at copying and (sometimes) improve things. But mostly they have been good at selling stuff to the richest segment of the population. Similarly to what Prada did with bags (before becoming a luxury brand focused on women, Prada made bags for the Italian Royal Household). There's no shame in it, but I don't get why people try to credit Apple for things that have not been invented by Apple. In this particular case, Xerox and NextSTEP did a lot of research on the matter, that Apple benefited from, because their core business was that: research.

kergonath 4y ago

Depending on what the OP mean by "original", these could very well be the Mac guidelines from 1984, which significantly predate NeXT's (which were also heavily inspired by the work of the Mac team for obvious reasons).

peoplefromibiza 4y ago
You mean Xerox Star user interface from 1981? :) video from 1982 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn4vC80Pv6Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn4vC80Pv6Q that notoriously Steve Jobs saw and copied for the Lisa? > which were also heavily inspired by the work of the Mac team for obvious reasons [citation needed]