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> because the need for a surgeon in an important event in their life is somehow "wrong" Most countries try to guarantee access to a surgeon when one is needed.

by rcme 4y ago

RandomLensman 4y ago
Where I live, insurance for civil litigation is actually pretty cheap. For criminal cases, my understanding is that in a lot of places you will be given a lawyer if you cannot pay for one as a defendant.
- lmm 4y ago
  They've been slowly bleeding those systems dry, putting caps on how much they'll pay and restricting who gets access.
madsbuch 4y ago
In Denmark there is "fri process" that will ensure a lawyer is provided when really needed and you can't afford it – my guess is that other countries have similar systems.
- iinnPP 4y ago
  The problem is that, most of the time, those lawyers are so loaded with cases that they cannot provide you full representation. Ask any US Federal DA or US Federal Public Defender who you know to be honest. Any. It may differ in your country, but it is unlikely.
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    > Ask any US Federal DA There is no such thing as a “US Federal DA”. I assume you mean a US Attorney. OTOH, US Attorneys and Federal Public Defenders (in the judicial districts that have them, its a district by district decision under the governing law) may not be the most knowledgeablr about this since most cases are tried in state court and the federal indigent defense delivery system is very different from most state systems, both in structural model and caseload.
  - madsbuch 4y ago
    > It may differ in your country, but it is unlikely. It differs in my country, and it is very likely. The US follows an anglo approach to law. No country in the EU follows that – I do understand that it is the easiest to assume that other countries work like you expect, though not very productive.
NoboruWataya 4y ago
Most countries also give you a lawyer if you need it, no? Like, you get public defenders in the US?
- rcme 4y ago
  Not for civil cases. And the reputation of public defenders for criminal cases is not particularly good.

> because the need for a surgeon in an important event in their life is somehow "wrong" Most countries try to guarantee access to a surgeon when one is needed.

by rcme 4y ago

> because the need for a surgeon in an important event in their life is somehow "wrong" Most countries try to guarantee access to a surgeon when one is needed.

RandomLensman 4y ago

Where I live, insurance for civil litigation is actually pretty cheap. For criminal cases, my understanding is that in a lot of places you will be given a lawyer if you cannot pay for one as a defendant.

lmm 4y ago
They've been slowly bleeding those systems dry, putting caps on how much they'll pay and restricting who gets access.

madsbuch 4y ago

In Denmark there is "fri process" that will ensure a lawyer is provided when really needed and you can't afford it – my guess is that other countries have similar systems.

iinnPP 4y ago
The problem is that, most of the time, those lawyers are so loaded with cases that they cannot provide you full representation. Ask any US Federal DA or US Federal Public Defender who you know to be honest. Any. It may differ in your country, but it is unlikely.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > Ask any US Federal DA There is no such thing as a “US Federal DA”. I assume you mean a US Attorney. OTOH, US Attorneys and Federal Public Defenders (in the judicial districts that have them, its a district by district decision under the governing law) may not be the most knowledgeablr about this since most cases are tried in state court and the federal indigent defense delivery system is very different from most state systems, both in structural model and caseload.
- madsbuch 4y ago
  > It may differ in your country, but it is unlikely. It differs in my country, and it is very likely. The US follows an anglo approach to law. No country in the EU follows that – I do understand that it is the easiest to assume that other countries work like you expect, though not very productive.

NoboruWataya 4y ago

Most countries also give you a lawyer if you need it, no? Like, you get public defenders in the US?

rcme 4y ago
Not for civil cases. And the reputation of public defenders for criminal cases is not particularly good.