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Considering what russia is doing and how propaganda works, it’s not so interesting why there are so many Chekhov and Dostoevsky on a forum for "hackers". It's

Considering what russia is doing and how propaganda works, it’s not so interesting why there are so many Chekhov and Dostoevsky on a forum for "hackers". It's interesting that there is so little about ballet here :)

082349872349872 4y ago
ХН: первый в космосе; последний в балете )) "HN is the first in space but last at the ballet" [Edit: come to think of it, the ballet claque https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claque https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claque is an early example of astroturfing; these days it's been automated by the laugh track]
nindalf 4y ago
Insane. Is it possible that Chekhov and Dostoevsky were just really good writers? That maybe we liked them long before Putin started Putin-ing? But no, everyone else apart from you is an easily led sheep and Putin or whoever else is the shepherd.
- jevgeni 4y ago
  How many really good writers not from colonialist regimes are there? How often do they make to the front page of HN?
  - fancybouncy 4y ago
    writers not from colonialist regimes don't make it to HN because most of us never heard of them at school, which focuses on western writers. are you aware that most wealthy countries are or have been colonialist regimes? this includes much of Europe, North America, Japan and China.
    - jevgeni 4y ago
      Exactly. P.S. Also Russia, which is not really Europe.
      - konart 4y ago
        Russia is (or at least was, during Grand Duchy of Moscow times) a part of Eastern Europe. Now, its eastern\southern\northen parts\colonies - are not (except for the north and south -west of course)
  - slothtrop 4y ago
    Writers of old usually came from aristocracy. So, few.
- somethingreen 4y ago
  The argument is not that everyone who likes old russian writers is a shill. It's that people bringing them up at current time can't read the room at least, give in to their own imperialist tendencies probably and it only goes worse from there.
dang 4y ago
Please don't take HN threads into nationalistic flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34529215 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34529215.
- jevgeni 4y ago
  This is misguided neutrality, I think. At some point even HN would need to pick a side.
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082349872349872 4y ago

ХН: первый в космосе; последний в балете )) "HN is the first in space but last at the ballet" [Edit: come to think of it, the ballet claque https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claque https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claque is an early example of astroturfing; these days it's been automated by the laugh track]

nindalf 4y ago

Insane. Is it possible that Chekhov and Dostoevsky were just really good writers? That maybe we liked them long before Putin started Putin-ing? But no, everyone else apart from you is an easily led sheep and Putin or whoever else is the shepherd.

jevgeni 4y ago
How many really good writers not from colonialist regimes are there? How often do they make to the front page of HN?
- fancybouncy 4y ago
  writers not from colonialist regimes don't make it to HN because most of us never heard of them at school, which focuses on western writers. are you aware that most wealthy countries are or have been colonialist regimes? this includes much of Europe, North America, Japan and China.
  - jevgeni 4y ago
    Exactly. P.S. Also Russia, which is not really Europe.
    - konart 4y ago
      Russia is (or at least was, during Grand Duchy of Moscow times) a part of Eastern Europe. Now, its eastern\southern\northen parts\colonies - are not (except for the north and south -west of course)
- slothtrop 4y ago
  Writers of old usually came from aristocracy. So, few.
somethingreen 4y ago
The argument is not that everyone who likes old russian writers is a shill. It's that people bringing them up at current time can't read the room at least, give in to their own imperialist tendencies probably and it only goes worse from there.

dang 4y ago

Please don't take HN threads into nationalistic flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34529215 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34529215.

jevgeni 4y ago
This is misguided neutrality, I think. At some point even HN would need to pick a side.

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