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That's not the question. The answer to that is Mexico, the article is about Mexico judging it and "cracking down". The GP was clarifying the context. You refus
by MrOwnPut 4y ago
That's not the question. The answer to that is Mexico, the article is about Mexico judging it and "cracking down".
The GP was clarifying the context. You refused to talk about the meat of their argument and instead opted to be pedantic about how the atmosphere diffuses.
- marginalia_nu 4y agoNo it doesn't matter. Where they do this is entirely beside the point. They can do it from international waters. Everyone is affected. Laws are arbitrary.
- MrOwnPut 4y agoSo laws are arbitrary and if something is arbitrary it doesn't matter, so if anyone does anything that is arbitrary (in your mind) it doesn't matter? Let's back up for a second. What percentage would you say this experiment has in being correct?
- marginalia_nu 4y agoOf course it matters.
- MrOwnPut 4y agoI updated my post with a few questions to clarify your stance. The point of the question is to ask whether you think this has 100% chance of not causing issues. The next step of course would then be to say, okay if it isn't 100% safe then do you support Mexico's right to say, "hey this could cause us or the world harm, stop it".
- TylerE 4y agoI think what he means is that Mexico would be just as effected if they did in the ocean, or in India or wherever.
- MrOwnPut 4y agoI'm aware. But if it did cause issues it would concentrate in Mexico and dissipate globally. But what I'm asking them is.. do they believe it's in Mexico's right to ask a person to stop experimenting on the atmosphere (global or otherwise) from their country.
- marginalia_nu 4y agoIt may cause issues, it may not. It's so hard to know, we may not even know even if they do carry out these types of experiments.
- MrOwnPut 4y agoOkay, so we're at the next step. Do you support Mexico's decision to stop experiments on the atmosphere that may cause issues?
- marginalia_nu 4y agoIn the end I don't think it really matters.
- MrOwnPut 4y agoThat's a cop out to the question and discussion.
- marginalia_nu 4y agoIt's perfectly in line with my position the whole discussion. Laws are arbitrary. Mexico is a soverign country and have the right to have whatever laws they want.
- MrOwnPut 4y agoSo you support Mexico's stance then? I was asking for an opinion.
- marginalia_nu 4y agoStop putting words in my mouth.
- MrOwnPut 4y ago
- mcv 4y agoIt's great that Mexico is stepping up and protect the atmosphere, which indeed impacts not just Mexico but everybody, but you're absolutely right that international waters are still a massive loophole in the laws of the world. Almost anything goes, there. Many ships still burn incredibly dirty fuel in international waters, simply because they can and it's cheaper. We really need better international regulation of these sort of commons.