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Sure. But many Android developers are likely to use Cloud SQL and give quick feedback. How big the benefits are is let as an exercise to the reader.

verdverm 4y ago
They have automated monitoring that would alert SREs before a support ticket likely would. Do you really think someone working on an OS would be using Cloud SQL regularly to notice? Maybe a developer of an Android app is (1) using Cloud SQL (over firestore?) and (2) has monitoring that would alert them effectively and (3) determine the cause is Google and send a support ticket. As an exercise, which is likely to reach the SRE first?
- danielscrubs 4y ago
  > They have automated monitoring that would alert SREs before a support ticket likely would. Yes, but how likely is this unlikely situation? It took 12 hours to debug and fix after all.
  - verdverm 4y ago
    It was the dashboard, applications depending on the database service were not impacted. You're comparing apples and oranges and ignoring both a much larger context and the nuances
    - danielscrubs 4y ago
      And most of those customers are paying customers? All I'm saying is that some outages are to be expected from a young company and they are doing excellent work.
      - verdverm 4y ago
        Are they doing excellent work? We all have raved about various startups and how great they were, until the externalities became widely understood. Is there something that excludes OpenAI from this possibility? My near term concern is that these language models are going to cause a host of issues for society. Botnets, misinformation, students using for homework, influence operations... I believe trust in information is a bigger concern than global warming. As an aside, what is OpenAI's relative contribution to CO2 emissions compared with other companies of similar size?
riku_iki 4y ago
> Android developers are likely to use Cloud SQL "likely" is your hypothesis. They are two different orgs, and internal services can use different infra for analysis.

verdverm 4y ago

They have automated monitoring that would alert SREs before a support ticket likely would. Do you really think someone working on an OS would be using Cloud SQL regularly to notice? Maybe a developer of an Android app is (1) using Cloud SQL (over firestore?) and (2) has monitoring that would alert them effectively and (3) determine the cause is Google and send a support ticket. As an exercise, which is likely to reach the SRE first?

danielscrubs 4y ago
> They have automated monitoring that would alert SREs before a support ticket likely would. Yes, but how likely is this unlikely situation? It took 12 hours to debug and fix after all.
- verdverm 4y ago
  It was the dashboard, applications depending on the database service were not impacted. You're comparing apples and oranges and ignoring both a much larger context and the nuances
  - danielscrubs 4y ago
    And most of those customers are paying customers? All I'm saying is that some outages are to be expected from a young company and they are doing excellent work.
    - verdverm 4y ago
      Are they doing excellent work? We all have raved about various startups and how great they were, until the externalities became widely understood. Is there something that excludes OpenAI from this possibility? My near term concern is that these language models are going to cause a host of issues for society. Botnets, misinformation, students using for homework, influence operations... I believe trust in information is a bigger concern than global warming. As an aside, what is OpenAI's relative contribution to CO2 emissions compared with other companies of similar size?

riku_iki 4y ago

> Android developers are likely to use Cloud SQL "likely" is your hypothesis. They are two different orgs, and internal services can use different infra for analysis.