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Either way, sticking it to the man by denying waitstaff a tip is a poor method to fix an inequity. Just tip, so your server can get closer to a living wage for

Either way, sticking it to the man by denying waitstaff a tip is a poor method to fix an inequity. Just tip, so your server can get closer to a living wage for their hard work.

Quarrelsome 4y ago
I don't live in that place so the advice isn't important. Also I think its fair to argue that joining this macabre dance is also a poor method to fix an inequity. If its true what others say tips are deducted so their employers pay below minimum wage then why not pay the server outside of the transaction so the employer is forced to do what they should have been doing in the first place?
- berniedurfee 4y ago
  I always tip cash when possible.
ADuckOnQuack 4y ago
Do you tip the janitors of each place you frequent? What makes wait staff any more deserving of a living wage than other occupations? Realistically tipping is just a subsidy for corporations who choose to take more profit instead of pay a living wage to their workers.
- berniedurfee 4y ago
  Wait staff in many states make below minimum wage, with tips expected to make up the rest. So I always tip wait staff and will still tip when theses laws change. I also try to tip everyone I can when I have the means. Yes, I’d tip janitors, their job sucks, as do most jobs where you have to deal with the general public, and they’re underpaid.
  - ADuckOnQuack 4y ago
    The "expectation" of tips making up the rest is really just an expectation from the business that you will needlessly subsidize their payroll, in all 50 states the employer is mandated to always pay the minimum wage even if zero tips are earned https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/wages/wagestips https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/wages/wagestips I say tipping is unnecessary because there exist a few states like California who ban the practice of paying a lower "cash wage" and allowing businesses to keep tips for themselves. Anecdotally, I notice that typical restaurant bills in California are not any more expensive than nearby states like Nevada, Colorado, or Arizona.
    - berniedurfee 4y ago
      I say tipping is necessary, for me, because it helps people out.

Either way, sticking it to the man by denying waitstaff a tip is a poor method to fix an inequity. Just tip, so your server can get closer to a living wage for their hard work.

Quarrelsome 4y ago

I don't live in that place so the advice isn't important. Also I think its fair to argue that joining this macabre dance is also a poor method to fix an inequity. If its true what others say tips are deducted so their employers pay below minimum wage then why not pay the server outside of the transaction so the employer is forced to do what they should have been doing in the first place?

berniedurfee 4y ago
I always tip cash when possible.

ADuckOnQuack 4y ago

Do you tip the janitors of each place you frequent? What makes wait staff any more deserving of a living wage than other occupations? Realistically tipping is just a subsidy for corporations who choose to take more profit instead of pay a living wage to their workers.

berniedurfee 4y ago
Wait staff in many states make below minimum wage, with tips expected to make up the rest. So I always tip wait staff and will still tip when theses laws change. I also try to tip everyone I can when I have the means. Yes, I’d tip janitors, their job sucks, as do most jobs where you have to deal with the general public, and they’re underpaid.
- ADuckOnQuack 4y ago
  The "expectation" of tips making up the rest is really just an expectation from the business that you will needlessly subsidize their payroll, in all 50 states the employer is mandated to always pay the minimum wage even if zero tips are earned https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/wages/wagestips https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/wages/wagestips I say tipping is unnecessary because there exist a few states like California who ban the practice of paying a lower "cash wage" and allowing businesses to keep tips for themselves. Anecdotally, I notice that typical restaurant bills in California are not any more expensive than nearby states like Nevada, Colorado, or Arizona.
  - berniedurfee 4y ago
    I say tipping is necessary, for me, because it helps people out.