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Theoretically, sure! But that's an enormous effort. This is actually what the goal of GNUstep is and has been from the start, and I kind of doubt there's even a

by brirec 4y ago

Theoretically, sure! But that's an enormous effort. This is actually what the goal of GNUstep is and has been from the start, and I kind of doubt there's even a single codebase (apart from, maybe, example code) that will compile on both Xcode and GNUstep without major changes. Edit: To be clear, GNUstep is something like 6 years _older_ than Mac OS X, so it's had plenty of time to catch up. The problem is really that these APIs are constantly changing and being extended. The goalpost is moving far too fast to ever meet it.

kmeisthax 4y ago
Microsoft tried porting GNUStep to Windows as part of the Windows 10 "iOS Bridge". They gave up, which is actually kind of sad.
- tymscar 4y ago
  Wow, do you have any source on that? Would love to read more about it!
  - kmeisthax 4y ago
    Ok, I'm very much paraphrasing from "shit I read on Wikipedia", but WinObjC does exist and it did use parts of GNUStep: https://github.com/Microsoft/WinObjC/issues/116 https://github.com/Microsoft/WinObjC/issues/116
  - pjmlp 4y ago
    On the heyday of trying to cater devs into WinRT, Microsoft had a couple of projects: - Project Astoria[0], for porting Android apps - Project Centennial[1], for porting Win32 apps - Windows Bridge for iOS[2], for porting iOS apps Project Astoria was later rebooted into WSL, and now with Windows Subsystem for Android we are back at Astoria's original goal. [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_Mobile#Project_Astoria https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_Mobile#Project_Asto... [1] - https://blogs.windows.com/windowsdeveloper/tag/project-centennial/ https://blogs.windows.com/windowsdeveloper/tag/project-cente... [2] - https://blogs.windows.com/windowsdeveloper/2015/08/06/open-sourcing-the-windows-bridge-for-ios/ https://blogs.windows.com/windowsdeveloper/2015/08/06/open-s...
- steve1977 4y ago
  There was actually an official implementation of OPENSTEP for Windows NT. And later on, you could still get the runtime (called Yellow Box) via WebObjects for example. Not sure if it still exists anymore nowadays.
- mpweiher 4y ago
  As far as I know they largely based this on Cocotron[1], without giving credit. And of course it wasn't so much "giving up" (which sorta implies it was the difficulty of the task), but more "losing interest", because they discontinued Windows Phone, where they were behind Apple's iOS in terms of market share. In that context, getting iOS apps on their system is economically interesting. On desktop, Windows is way ahead of macOS in terms of market share, so there isn't much of a point. [1] https://cocotron.org https://cocotron.org

by brirec 4y ago

kmeisthax 4y ago

Microsoft tried porting GNUStep to Windows as part of the Windows 10 "iOS Bridge". They gave up, which is actually kind of sad.

tymscar 4y ago
Wow, do you have any source on that? Would love to read more about it!
- kmeisthax 4y ago
  Ok, I'm very much paraphrasing from "shit I read on Wikipedia", but WinObjC does exist and it did use parts of GNUStep: https://github.com/Microsoft/WinObjC/issues/116 https://github.com/Microsoft/WinObjC/issues/116
- pjmlp 4y ago
  On the heyday of trying to cater devs into WinRT, Microsoft had a couple of projects: - Project Astoria[0], for porting Android apps - Project Centennial[1], for porting Win32 apps - Windows Bridge for iOS[2], for porting iOS apps Project Astoria was later rebooted into WSL, and now with Windows Subsystem for Android we are back at Astoria's original goal. [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_Mobile#Project_Astoria https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_Mobile#Project_Asto... [1] - https://blogs.windows.com/windowsdeveloper/tag/project-centennial/ https://blogs.windows.com/windowsdeveloper/tag/project-cente... [2] - https://blogs.windows.com/windowsdeveloper/2015/08/06/open-sourcing-the-windows-bridge-for-ios/ https://blogs.windows.com/windowsdeveloper/2015/08/06/open-s...
steve1977 4y ago
There was actually an official implementation of OPENSTEP for Windows NT. And later on, you could still get the runtime (called Yellow Box) via WebObjects for example. Not sure if it still exists anymore nowadays.
mpweiher 4y ago
As far as I know they largely based this on Cocotron[1], without giving credit. And of course it wasn't so much "giving up" (which sorta implies it was the difficulty of the task), but more "losing interest", because they discontinued Windows Phone, where they were behind Apple's iOS in terms of market share. In that context, getting iOS apps on their system is economically interesting. On desktop, Windows is way ahead of macOS in terms of market share, so there isn't much of a point. [1] https://cocotron.org https://cocotron.org