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I don't think GP is advocating to keep the land undeveloped. They even go so far as the point out how the area makes a lot of sense for developers. The problems

I don't think GP is advocating to keep the land undeveloped. They even go so far as the point out how the area makes a lot of sense for developers. The problems they identify seem to be 1) the reckless abandon to which developers are damaging ecosystems 2) an economic situation that allows developers to benefit significantly without these benefits necessarily passing into the community 3) the significant challenges of rapid population growth and 4) the fact that this development threatens their home. These are worth discussing and balancing against any benefits. I also object your false dichotomy, and the idea that employment and "progress" (I doubt we can ever objectively make such a declaration) are zero-sum here.

cycrutchfield 4y ago
> an economic situation that allows developers to benefit significantly without these benefits necessarily passing into the community Does the development of that land not result in increased property taxes to fund local services?
- mikeyouse 4y ago
  Almost all of these deals come with asinine property tax abatements gifted by the local jurisdictions to the wealthiest companies on earth. Sure enough - Intel's package there is worth a few hundred million: https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/2022/09/23/ohio-poised-to-approve-650-million-tax-break-for-intel/69513492007/#:~:text=JobsOhio%2C%20the%20state's%20economic%20development,in%20the%20city's%20business%20park https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/2022/09/23/ohio-pois.... It's a game all of these firms play - have locales compete against each other (In some cases literally like the HQ2 debacle from Amazon) to see who can provide the largest package of tax incentives and subsidies and then hope nobody follows up on the absolute fantasy financial / Economic impact projections that were made.
- rotten 4y ago
  The opposite. It is those of us who live here who are paying for the new water and sewer lines and roads and street lights and law enforcement. Not the developers nor the big corporations who are getting abatements.
  - ErikCorry 4y ago
    You said "The Intel project is paying for highway development the power and sewer extensions and more."?
    - rotten 4y ago
      The Project, not Intel. It is Intel Project motivating the improvements which are making it possible for AWS, the box stores, the fast food joints, Google, and others to move in too. Intel the focal point for the money from the local governments, the state government, and the federal government to help make this happen.

cycrutchfield 4y ago

> an economic situation that allows developers to benefit significantly without these benefits necessarily passing into the community Does the development of that land not result in increased property taxes to fund local services?

mikeyouse 4y ago
Almost all of these deals come with asinine property tax abatements gifted by the local jurisdictions to the wealthiest companies on earth. Sure enough - Intel's package there is worth a few hundred million: https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/2022/09/23/ohio-poised-to-approve-650-million-tax-break-for-intel/69513492007/#:~:text=JobsOhio%2C%20the%20state's%20economic%20development,in%20the%20city's%20business%20park https://www.dispatch.com/story/business/2022/09/23/ohio-pois.... It's a game all of these firms play - have locales compete against each other (In some cases literally like the HQ2 debacle from Amazon) to see who can provide the largest package of tax incentives and subsidies and then hope nobody follows up on the absolute fantasy financial / Economic impact projections that were made.
rotten 4y ago
The opposite. It is those of us who live here who are paying for the new water and sewer lines and roads and street lights and law enforcement. Not the developers nor the big corporations who are getting abatements.
- ErikCorry 4y ago
  You said "The Intel project is paying for highway development the power and sewer extensions and more."?
  - rotten 4y ago
    The Project, not Intel. It is Intel Project motivating the improvements which are making it possible for AWS, the box stores, the fast food joints, Google, and others to move in too. Intel the focal point for the money from the local governments, the state government, and the federal government to help make this happen.