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I wonder if this was done to stop trackers like @ElonJet since ADS-B Exchange doesn't seem to support the "privacy" requests of the rich & famous as FlightAware

by lsllc 4y ago

I wonder if this was done to stop trackers like @ElonJet since ADS-B Exchange doesn't seem to support the "privacy" requests of the rich & famous as FlightAware / FlightRadar24 et al do. https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-private-jet-no-longer-appearing-on-public-tracking-2022-12 https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-private-jet-no-lon...

cobertos 4y ago
Interestingly, ADS-B Exchange's twitter is suspended when I looked to see if there was any news updates there
- wkat4242 4y ago
  That's because they pissed off Elon by supplying the source data for ElonJet. He's been on a banning spree for weeks. Anyone who so much as mentioned the account would get the banhammer.
  - cactusplant7374 4y ago
    You can still post the link with TinyURL or another URL shortener.
sftomato 4y ago
Let's not forget that thanks to adsb-exchange, authorities were also able to track Jeffrey Epstein's private jets. https://www.insider.com/jeffrey-epsteins-private-jet-flight-data-2019-7 https://www.insider.com/jeffrey-epsteins-private-jet-flight-... https://github.com/adsbxchange/Jeffrey_Epstein_Lolita_Express https://github.com/adsbxchange/Jeffrey_Epstein_Lolita_Expres...
- mlindner 4y ago
  All of this information is public and known to the government. ADBS Exchange didn't provide anything that wasn't already available.
  - 22c 4y ago
    Yes and no.. "The government" doesn't have RTL-SDRs deployed in thousands of homes across many dozens of countries in the world, yet... In some cases, having several thousands of geographically distributed volunteers submitting open source data can result in a more accurate picture than what a handful of government funded agencies could provide.
    - mlindner 4y ago
      Some government does however and governments can get such information from other governments.
    - tzs 4y ago
      > "The government" doesn't have RTL-SDRs deployed in thousands of homes across many dozens of countries in the world, yet... In the case of tracking things like Epstein's jet does that really make a difference? The flights are going to start and end at airports, which I would guess would have ADS-B monitors. The thousands of RTL-SDRs could be good for find the particular route taken between airports but that's usually not going to be relevant for an investigation, except for crimes that take place in the air.
  - bahbahbahblah 4y ago
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  - trothamel 4y ago
    To the government. Having this available to journalists (and people to check the journalist's work) is also useful.
    - mlindner 4y ago
      Sure, but the comment I replied to was about "the authorities".
      - deleted 4y ago
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mlindner 4y ago
They're not requests, they're mandated by US law. Also it's not limited to rich and famous. Anyone can do it. Only the rich and famous seem to have passionate enough haters that they actively try to subvert the privacy protections.
- ranger207 4y ago
  AIUI it's mandated by US law if you use data from the FAA's system, and ADS-B Exchange didn't use the FAA's data so wasn't required to hide things on the privacy list
- nocoiner 4y ago
  What’s the saying? The law, in its majestic equality, prohibits both the rich and the poor from sleeping on the streets? Something like that.

by lsllc 4y ago

cobertos 4y ago

Interestingly, ADS-B Exchange's twitter is suspended when I looked to see if there was any news updates there

wkat4242 4y ago
That's because they pissed off Elon by supplying the source data for ElonJet. He's been on a banning spree for weeks. Anyone who so much as mentioned the account would get the banhammer.
- cactusplant7374 4y ago
  You can still post the link with TinyURL or another URL shortener.

sftomato 4y ago

Let's not forget that thanks to adsb-exchange, authorities were also able to track Jeffrey Epstein's private jets. https://www.insider.com/jeffrey-epsteins-private-jet-flight-data-2019-7 https://www.insider.com/jeffrey-epsteins-private-jet-flight-... https://github.com/adsbxchange/Jeffrey_Epstein_Lolita_Express https://github.com/adsbxchange/Jeffrey_Epstein_Lolita_Expres...

mlindner 4y ago
All of this information is public and known to the government. ADBS Exchange didn't provide anything that wasn't already available.
- 22c 4y ago
  Yes and no.. "The government" doesn't have RTL-SDRs deployed in thousands of homes across many dozens of countries in the world, yet... In some cases, having several thousands of geographically distributed volunteers submitting open source data can result in a more accurate picture than what a handful of government funded agencies could provide.
  - mlindner 4y ago
    Some government does however and governments can get such information from other governments.
  - tzs 4y ago
    > "The government" doesn't have RTL-SDRs deployed in thousands of homes across many dozens of countries in the world, yet... In the case of tracking things like Epstein's jet does that really make a difference? The flights are going to start and end at airports, which I would guess would have ADS-B monitors. The thousands of RTL-SDRs could be good for find the particular route taken between airports but that's usually not going to be relevant for an investigation, except for crimes that take place in the air.
- bahbahbahblah 4y ago
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- trothamel 4y ago
  To the government. Having this available to journalists (and people to check the journalist's work) is also useful.
  - mlindner 4y ago
    Sure, but the comment I replied to was about "the authorities".
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]

mlindner 4y ago

They're not requests, they're mandated by US law. Also it's not limited to rich and famous. Anyone can do it. Only the rich and famous seem to have passionate enough haters that they actively try to subvert the privacy protections.

ranger207 4y ago
AIUI it's mandated by US law if you use data from the FAA's system, and ADS-B Exchange didn't use the FAA's data so wasn't required to hide things on the privacy list
nocoiner 4y ago
What’s the saying? The law, in its majestic equality, prohibits both the rich and the poor from sleeping on the streets? Something like that.