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> The thing I care about when it comes to “violent” offenses isn’t what they did but why. If I had an oracle that could see into their soul and know with certai

> The thing I care about when it comes to “violent” offenses isn’t what they did but why. If I had an oracle that could see into their soul and know with certainty they would never reoffend I wouldn’t even bother locking them up at all. Business man built a giant company and is about to get divorced. Wife is about to get half of everything because he got married before he had any success. He likes her to keep it. Highly situational murder, zero risk to reoffend. You're saying because he had a zero recidivism rate we shouldn't jail him?

Spivak 4y ago
Definitely, what is even the point of jailing him? You want him jailed as punishment not for anyone’s actual safety. To me that is exceedingly cruel and a waste of a human life. We can do better than that. - Instead of losing half his money he now loses 75% of it. - Instead of alimony 40% of his earnings and appreciation of assets are garnished. All the money gets split between the wife’s family and a charity that financially supports the victims of violent crime. - He loses all stake in the company he built and can’t hold any position in the company or a position the company contracts with. All his shares get returned to the company itself like a buyback (that he doesn’t benefit from). - He is not allowed to remarry. - He will get tattooed with a symbol people will recognize as a domestic abuser on his pelvis. It won’t show in normal circumstances but any intimate partner will know and he’ll have to explain it for the rest of his life. If that’s not punishment enough for you then come up with your own scheme. Just so long as it’s not torture and he can continue living a semi-normal life among the rest of society since he’s not actually a danger to anyone. Bet our hypothetical homeboy will regret his murder a million times more than sitting in a luxury prison for rich people while his stocks appreciate.

Spivak 4y ago

Definitely, what is even the point of jailing him? You want him jailed as punishment not for anyone’s actual safety. To me that is exceedingly cruel and a waste of a human life. We can do better than that. - Instead of losing half his money he now loses 75% of it. - Instead of alimony 40% of his earnings and appreciation of assets are garnished. All the money gets split between the wife’s family and a charity that financially supports the victims of violent crime. - He loses all stake in the company he built and can’t hold any position in the company or a position the company contracts with. All his shares get returned to the company itself like a buyback (that he doesn’t benefit from). - He is not allowed to remarry. - He will get tattooed with a symbol people will recognize as a domestic abuser on his pelvis. It won’t show in normal circumstances but any intimate partner will know and he’ll have to explain it for the rest of his life. If that’s not punishment enough for you then come up with your own scheme. Just so long as it’s not torture and he can continue living a semi-normal life among the rest of society since he’s not actually a danger to anyone. Bet our hypothetical homeboy will regret his murder a million times more than sitting in a luxury prison for rich people while his stocks appreciate.