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Stadia was a stupid idea in the first place that was going to be fraught with problems, and The Google may have thought those problems could be overcome with th

Stadia was a stupid idea in the first place that was going to be fraught with problems, and The Google may have thought those problems could be overcome with their incredible genius or their customers' brand loyalty. Why buy a new gaming system selling itself on a technology (cloud gaming) that the player has no reason to care about and will inevitably cause problems that won't happen with locally installed games? Cloud gaming thinks it solves a problem that players never had; storage today is plentiful and affordable. Enough gamers simply knew that the proposition The Google was making would be a road to hell and wasn't appealing regardless. This is an example of how The Google keeps shooting itself in the foot. In terms of aesthetics, they mostly know what they are doing, but they are terrible at selling things and believing in their own products. If they don't believe in their own products and are so quick to give up on ideas, why should I believe in their products? In contrast, if Apple does something, you know they'll stick with it for more than a few weeks. If Apple decided to get more competitive in the gaming space, I actually think they could do quite well because nobody thinks they're going to be swindled by them.

mschuster91 4y ago
> Cloud gaming thinks it solves a problem that players never had; storage today is plentiful and affordable. Actually I think cloud gaming has its advantages - you don't have to worry about upgrading a computer all the time to keep up with new developments, to keep it running and patched, some online trolls gaining RCE on your machine (yes, that happens, remember Minecraft and log4j!), giving kernel-level access to crappy anti-cheat software or about the power and heat. And when a new game comes out, you don't have to deal with downloading dozens of gigabytes on day 1 and another dozen gigabytes in patches in the following weeks. Just go online and play. And if you want to go on vacation or on other travel, you don't need to haul around a thousand dollar worth PC or laptop, you only need your Chromecast.
- ravenstine 4y ago
  Maybe those would actually be advantages in a world where network delay and connectivity issues aren't a thing. Stadia reminds me of the time Homer Simpson designed a car. Just because an idea sounds ingenious doesn't mean it will result in an ingenious product. Actually, Stadia is a lot like Homer's car. Instead of Homer, the reigns were seemingly handed to engineer-types living in the Silicon Valley bubble who thought it'd be cool to play games over VNC (an oversimplification, yes). The product should never have seen the light of day and, when unveiled, everyone who saw it knew it was doomed. In reality, most people just don't care about downloading game updates, regardless of how unreasonably gargantuan they can be. It's arguably a good thing that people have to take some break from gaming. Regardless, there's no evidence that downloading updates is preventing any meaningful number of users from spending more money on gaming. Anti-cheat software sucks, but again, it's not much of a roadblock for most gamers if at all. The disadvantages outweigh the benefits. Input lag is frustrating, even if it happens occasionally, and is borderline unacceptable when playing online multiplayer games. Lose access to internet? Just go read a book, kid! At best, Stadia might have been a niche product for the minority who would want it. Not in a million years would I have wanted a Stadia. To compete in the highly competitive sphere of gaming, Stadia needed more of a value proposition than being able to play games instantly without downloading updates.

mschuster91 4y ago

> Cloud gaming thinks it solves a problem that players never had; storage today is plentiful and affordable. Actually I think cloud gaming has its advantages - you don't have to worry about upgrading a computer all the time to keep up with new developments, to keep it running and patched, some online trolls gaining RCE on your machine (yes, that happens, remember Minecraft and log4j!), giving kernel-level access to crappy anti-cheat software or about the power and heat. And when a new game comes out, you don't have to deal with downloading dozens of gigabytes on day 1 and another dozen gigabytes in patches in the following weeks. Just go online and play. And if you want to go on vacation or on other travel, you don't need to haul around a thousand dollar worth PC or laptop, you only need your Chromecast.

ravenstine 4y ago
Maybe those would actually be advantages in a world where network delay and connectivity issues aren't a thing. Stadia reminds me of the time Homer Simpson designed a car. Just because an idea sounds ingenious doesn't mean it will result in an ingenious product. Actually, Stadia is a lot like Homer's car. Instead of Homer, the reigns were seemingly handed to engineer-types living in the Silicon Valley bubble who thought it'd be cool to play games over VNC (an oversimplification, yes). The product should never have seen the light of day and, when unveiled, everyone who saw it knew it was doomed. In reality, most people just don't care about downloading game updates, regardless of how unreasonably gargantuan they can be. It's arguably a good thing that people have to take some break from gaming. Regardless, there's no evidence that downloading updates is preventing any meaningful number of users from spending more money on gaming. Anti-cheat software sucks, but again, it's not much of a roadblock for most gamers if at all. The disadvantages outweigh the benefits. Input lag is frustrating, even if it happens occasionally, and is borderline unacceptable when playing online multiplayer games. Lose access to internet? Just go read a book, kid! At best, Stadia might have been a niche product for the minority who would want it. Not in a million years would I have wanted a Stadia. To compete in the highly competitive sphere of gaming, Stadia needed more of a value proposition than being able to play games instantly without downloading updates.