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This no-js-no-css trend is gaining traction

ghusto 4y ago
NoJS I was aware of (and support where it makes sense, which is most of the time), but NoCSS? When did that start, and why?
- oblio 4y ago
  I'd assume it's a joke.
  - internetter 4y ago
    But also... I'd hardly call it a trend because It's been a thing for as long as I've used the web; but some 'classic' style programmers seem to opt out of CSS for their personal sites. One such example is Dan Luu [0], who wrote in a post [1] that styling decreased his viewership. Additionally, it can emphasize good structure that was concealed with CSS [0] https://danluu.com/ https://danluu.com/ [1] https://danluu.com/look-stupid/ https://danluu.com/look-stupid/
    - oblio 4y ago
      Anyone who uses the abominable table border design from HTML1 needs some special kind of punishment.
- dredmorbius 4y ago
  There's ... something ... to be said for a site with minimal markup which works in text-mode browsers. Though direct usage of those is probably a sliver of a fraction of all online usage, this also means that automated tools can work with a website. Scraping has both dark and light patterns and use-cases.
x98asfd 4y ago
What's not to like! 0K CSS, responsive, works in desktop, mobile and tablets, and not to mention blazing fast load speed.
- capableweb 4y ago
  If 2kb of CSS makes the difference between "blazing fast" and not "blazing fast", I think that's on you :)
- halflings 4y ago
  Responsive? I have to scroll past the left column ("Site Navigation") to read anything. That's the opposite of responsive (e.g. 2 columns on wider screens, 1 in mobile).
  - deafpolygon 4y ago
    It looks exactly as it does on mobile!
icepat 4y ago
Now I can read it in Emacs
- sn41 4y ago
  Eww :) Pun intended! By the way, has anyone used the eaf-browser? I use the other eaf applications like PDF viewer, but for some reason, the eaf-browser seems to eat up a lot of resources.
  - b112 4y ago
    That's because eaf-browser just uses chrome in a docker container, does screencaps -> ocr, then runs spellcheck, plus chatgpt on top for sanity checks, then copies it all back from an aws instance.
zoobab 4y ago
Send one HTML file with blue links like in the old days!

NoJS I was aware of (and support where it makes sense, which is most of the time), but NoCSS? When did that start, and why?

oblio 4y ago
I'd assume it's a joke.
- internetter 4y ago
  But also... I'd hardly call it a trend because It's been a thing for as long as I've used the web; but some 'classic' style programmers seem to opt out of CSS for their personal sites. One such example is Dan Luu [0], who wrote in a post [1] that styling decreased his viewership. Additionally, it can emphasize good structure that was concealed with CSS [0] https://danluu.com/ https://danluu.com/ [1] https://danluu.com/look-stupid/ https://danluu.com/look-stupid/
  - oblio 4y ago
    Anyone who uses the abominable table border design from HTML1 needs some special kind of punishment.
dredmorbius 4y ago
There's ... something ... to be said for a site with minimal markup which works in text-mode browsers. Though direct usage of those is probably a sliver of a fraction of all online usage, this also means that automated tools can work with a website. Scraping has both dark and light patterns and use-cases.

x98asfd 4y ago

What's not to like! 0K CSS, responsive, works in desktop, mobile and tablets, and not to mention blazing fast load speed.

capableweb 4y ago
If 2kb of CSS makes the difference between "blazing fast" and not "blazing fast", I think that's on you :)
halflings 4y ago
Responsive? I have to scroll past the left column ("Site Navigation") to read anything. That's the opposite of responsive (e.g. 2 columns on wider screens, 1 in mobile).
- deafpolygon 4y ago
  It looks exactly as it does on mobile!

icepat 4y ago

Now I can read it in Emacs

sn41 4y ago
Eww :) Pun intended! By the way, has anyone used the eaf-browser? I use the other eaf applications like PDF viewer, but for some reason, the eaf-browser seems to eat up a lot of resources.
- b112 4y ago
  That's because eaf-browser just uses chrome in a docker container, does screencaps -> ocr, then runs spellcheck, plus chatgpt on top for sanity checks, then copies it all back from an aws instance.

zoobab 4y ago

Send one HTML file with blue links like in the old days!