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Or maybe we need some kind of worker protections, where you can't just get people fired in the middle of the night. Unions and shit...

psychphysic 4y ago
That works, it's just that total compensation is likely to be lower. It's very likely this guy got a package that's far superior to what many people would have in more secure jobs. That's been Netflix, Spotify and twitter's play.
- penguinvondoom 4y ago
  It's only been high due to historic reasons and hype. Business has been on a decades crusade to push down payment for the software labor aristocracy, and to be fair security has nothing to do with it too. There is absolutely no inherent reason why someone should get higher compensation but get a less secure job, beyond the hype for that job, and security should be guaranteed regardless.
  - unmole 4y ago
    > Business has been on a decades crusade to push down payment for the software labor aristocracy That doesn't seem to be working at all. Or maybe, just maybe there isn't some grand conspiracy.
    - hnaccount141 4y ago
      > That doesn't seem to be working at all. Or maybe, just maybe there isn't some grand conspiracy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_Litigation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_L...
- lesuorac 4y ago
  Whose total compensation? It seems like union jobs pay more [1]. [1]: https://www.google.com/search?q=avergae+union+wage+vs+non-union&oq=avergae+union+wage+vs+non-unio https://www.google.com/search?q=avergae+union+wage+vs+non-un...
  - A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
    I understand both sides of the equation. I absolutely want to keep the level of autonomy a founder has with a start-up, which you will not have with a union, but at certain point, start up stops being an upstart ( Google, Meta come to mind ) so different rules may apply. But you are right, average compensation tends to up as a result and even out across the ranks ( and some people don't like that too ).
sinuhe69 4y ago
I understand the psychological effect of termination during the night. But rationally thinking, I don’t find any difference to other forms of termination. For the company though, the prompt termination has a much better security prospect.
- UncleMeat 4y ago
  The opportunity to say goodbye to your team, go to a last lunch together, and spend some time commiserating is very valuable.

psychphysic 4y ago

That works, it's just that total compensation is likely to be lower. It's very likely this guy got a package that's far superior to what many people would have in more secure jobs. That's been Netflix, Spotify and twitter's play.

penguinvondoom 4y ago
It's only been high due to historic reasons and hype. Business has been on a decades crusade to push down payment for the software labor aristocracy, and to be fair security has nothing to do with it too. There is absolutely no inherent reason why someone should get higher compensation but get a less secure job, beyond the hype for that job, and security should be guaranteed regardless.
- unmole 4y ago
  > Business has been on a decades crusade to push down payment for the software labor aristocracy That doesn't seem to be working at all. Or maybe, just maybe there isn't some grand conspiracy.
  - hnaccount141 4y ago
    > That doesn't seem to be working at all. Or maybe, just maybe there isn't some grand conspiracy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_Litigation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_L...
lesuorac 4y ago
Whose total compensation? It seems like union jobs pay more [1]. [1]: https://www.google.com/search?q=avergae+union+wage+vs+non-union&oq=avergae+union+wage+vs+non-unio https://www.google.com/search?q=avergae+union+wage+vs+non-un...
- A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago
  I understand both sides of the equation. I absolutely want to keep the level of autonomy a founder has with a start-up, which you will not have with a union, but at certain point, start up stops being an upstart ( Google, Meta come to mind ) so different rules may apply. But you are right, average compensation tends to up as a result and even out across the ranks ( and some people don't like that too ).

sinuhe69 4y ago

I understand the psychological effect of termination during the night. But rationally thinking, I don’t find any difference to other forms of termination. For the company though, the prompt termination has a much better security prospect.

UncleMeat 4y ago
The opportunity to say goodbye to your team, go to a last lunch together, and spend some time commiserating is very valuable.