I guess the question remains: where should a venue locate its smoking area? An enclosed, ventilated space is mostly prohibited due to the law being an ass. >

I guess the question remains: where should a venue locate its smoking area? An enclosed, ventilated space is mostly prohibited due to the law being an ass. > it’s their prerogative and mostly their problem except for the huge societal financial burden to treat them afterwards In the UK at least, smokers tend to pay in more as tax on their cigarette habit than they cost the state in pensions and healthcare, thanks to dying early. They literally are the opposite of a burden. Regarding children in bars: I'm European myself, and the social acceptability of having your child in a bar has been waning for quite some time.