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I really hate Azure with every fibre of my heart. Azure has really found a way to be the most developer hostile cloud environment. That's all I have to say.

4ggr0 4y ago
Well you've said it a couple of times now ;) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34515850 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34515850
- wrldos 4y ago
  I am entirely behind it being said everywhere over and over again :)
- Alifatisk 4y ago
  I’ll still upvote it every time.
jve 4y ago
> most developer hostile cloud environment Care to explain why?
pjmlp 4y ago
Compared with some other alternatives that exist on the enterprise space like IBM and Oracle clouds, I will pick Azure gladly.
- roncesvalles 4y ago
  IBM Cloud is really good. Don't knock it just because it's prefixed with the letters "IBM".
  - pjmlp 4y ago
    Try to use it for Windows development in containers.
    - wrldos 4y ago
      That's not a problem with the specific cloud but the clear and obvious fact that windows containers are a fucking shit show disaster. I have a lot of experience with windows containers and there is absolutely no way anyone in their right mind should be putting any workload on this steaming pile of shit. Network problems, DNS problems, no metrics exporters that work properly, stuck containers all the time, API timeouts, pain in the ass container versioning issues due to breaking kernel APIs. If you've ever had to attempt to get support on it either, you'll quickly find that no one at MSFT has any idea how the hell it works either. They literally just wanted the box to tick. Also running docker for windows has made our devops engineers suicidal because it's the same turd there.
      - pjmlp 4y ago
        Many Fortune 500 disagree.
        wrldos 4y ago
        Citation needed. Particularly from their operations teams and developers. Notably a lot of corporations are built on a pile of shit with an immense staff turnover. I know that having worked for multiple Fortune 500 companies...
        pjmlp 4y ago
        See list of Microsoft customers paying for Visual Studio Professional and Enterprise licenses, that is your citation.
        wrldos 4y ago
        That doesn't make sense because I'm a VS Enterprise subscriber but we don't deploy onto windows containers. I do some noddy VSTO stuff and write .Net Core stuff that goes into Linux Kubernetes on AWS.
      - sebazzz 4y ago
- madeofpalk 4y ago
  What does 'enterprise' mean, and is AWS enterprise?
  - pjmlp 4y ago
    Google is your friend.
durnygbur 4y ago
Have you tried resolving your problem by creating another cluster?
- wrldos 4y ago
  That's hilarious. Been there, been told that.

4ggr0 4y ago

Well you've said it a couple of times now ;) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34515850 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34515850

wrldos 4y ago
I am entirely behind it being said everywhere over and over again :)
Alifatisk 4y ago
I’ll still upvote it every time.

jve 4y ago

> most developer hostile cloud environment Care to explain why?

pjmlp 4y ago

Compared with some other alternatives that exist on the enterprise space like IBM and Oracle clouds, I will pick Azure gladly.

roncesvalles 4y ago
IBM Cloud is really good. Don't knock it just because it's prefixed with the letters "IBM".
- pjmlp 4y ago
  Try to use it for Windows development in containers.
  - wrldos 4y ago
    That's not a problem with the specific cloud but the clear and obvious fact that windows containers are a fucking shit show disaster. I have a lot of experience with windows containers and there is absolutely no way anyone in their right mind should be putting any workload on this steaming pile of shit. Network problems, DNS problems, no metrics exporters that work properly, stuck containers all the time, API timeouts, pain in the ass container versioning issues due to breaking kernel APIs. If you've ever had to attempt to get support on it either, you'll quickly find that no one at MSFT has any idea how the hell it works either. They literally just wanted the box to tick. Also running docker for windows has made our devops engineers suicidal because it's the same turd there.
    - pjmlp 4y ago
      Many Fortune 500 disagree.
      - wrldos 4y ago
        Citation needed. Particularly from their operations teams and developers. Notably a lot of corporations are built on a pile of shit with an immense staff turnover. I know that having worked for multiple Fortune 500 companies...
        pjmlp 4y ago
        See list of Microsoft customers paying for Visual Studio Professional and Enterprise licenses, that is your citation.
        wrldos 4y ago
        That doesn't make sense because I'm a VS Enterprise subscriber but we don't deploy onto windows containers. I do some noddy VSTO stuff and write .Net Core stuff that goes into Linux Kubernetes on AWS.
    - sebazzz 4y ago
madeofpalk 4y ago
What does 'enterprise' mean, and is AWS enterprise?
- pjmlp 4y ago
  Google is your friend.

durnygbur 4y ago

Have you tried resolving your problem by creating another cluster?

wrldos 4y ago
That's hilarious. Been there, been told that.