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My iPad mini 2 is also getting regular security updates, and that was launched 10 years ago . The problem isn't the OS, it's all the apps - even though it is co

My iPad mini 2 is also getting regular security updates, and that was launched 10 years ago . The problem isn't the OS, it's all the apps - even though it is compatible with, and runs Netflix and Disney Plus, both apps crash after about 15 minutes of use, which defeats the point of this iPad for me(cartoons playback device for my kid). It's a shame.

bratwurst3000 4y ago
Even worse. I got an old ipad to share the screen of my iphone. End of story is it doesnt work because apple isnt updating the protocol. Even worse I cant share the internet of my phone because they have different hotspot protocols . Fuck you apple. Even in the apple universe compability sucks
- kitsunesoba 4y ago
  If you’re looking to project your phone screen onto the iPad, I don’t think that’s ever worked. I have a newer iPhone and iPad running the same OS and they can’t do that either. Only Apple TV boxes and macs can act as screen mirroring targets without third party assistance. As for the hotspot, I don’t see why the old iPad shouldn’t be able to connect to your phone’s wifi as long as you have “Maximize compatibility” enabled. I think I’ve had circa 2008 devices connect to my phone that way but I’ll have to test to see if I’m misremembering or not.
  - bratwurst3000 4y ago
    Hey thanks i will test this when I will be back home. The core problem was that ipad and iphone have the same user account and because of that apple wants to share the network some other way then classic wifi. And this protocol aint updated in my ipad And screen mirroring is working when I use a new ipad :/
neuronic 4y ago
It frustrates me because it seems like the opposite of mindful engineering. I feel like that's the "we don't give a shit about resources" development mantra for you, banking on the ever increasing hardware limits that everyone will purchase in never-ending ~2 year cycles. "Ah, it's a nice morning with so many free gigabytes of RAM, calm CPU cycles and sunshine. Let's slap a few questionable libraries and a bunch of chatty analytics modules into the build." It doesn't help that a lot of major businesses work with contractors and consultants in relatively short-term gigs where feature development is king even if your application is reasonably feature complete. It's hard to improve a complex application if your domain knowledge and technical knowledge isn't quite there due to short time spent at the company (and likely no real personal invest in the product). Also, in mid to large sized companies, constant unwarranted changes to please a fat layer of middle management which needs to pretend to have some sort of impact may lead to crappy development. Let's just change the UI and UX for the sake of it with 5 additional libraries, 2 more processes so that manager XYZ has something to show for his PowerPoint presentation. Don't you dare work on technical debt and refactoring, we need new features to make management happy! Excluding possible external dependencies that might have broken or standards that might have changed, what did Netflix REALLY add to their app from a user perspective since it ran perfectly well on the iPad mini 2 in 2014?
- theshrike79 4y ago
  If their analytics say that they have 42 people using a 10 year old iPad, they're not going to spend the resources to a) source a similar iPad b) have QA and developers figure out what the issue is and implement a fix. It's just not cost-effective. I've heard of cases where mobile game firms have actually given high spenders a new modern device for free instead of dealing with the issues caused by their relatively ancient device :D
phs318u 4y ago
> which defeats the point of this iPad for me(cartoons playback device for my kid). It's a shame. For this specific use-case try https://b98.tv https://b98.tv, though I couldn't get it working on my old iPhone 5C.
- gambiting 4y ago
  We ended up getting a £50 Amazon Fire 7 tablet for that use case in the end, because despite restoring the ipad to factory settings and setting everything up from scratch, it was still crashing in the streaming apps. The Fire 7 is slow but works for the desired use case fine(and even has expandable storage, so I can just download loads of shows off netflix for the kid to watch without internet access).

bratwurst3000 4y ago

Even worse. I got an old ipad to share the screen of my iphone. End of story is it doesnt work because apple isnt updating the protocol. Even worse I cant share the internet of my phone because they have different hotspot protocols . Fuck you apple. Even in the apple universe compability sucks

kitsunesoba 4y ago
If you’re looking to project your phone screen onto the iPad, I don’t think that’s ever worked. I have a newer iPhone and iPad running the same OS and they can’t do that either. Only Apple TV boxes and macs can act as screen mirroring targets without third party assistance. As for the hotspot, I don’t see why the old iPad shouldn’t be able to connect to your phone’s wifi as long as you have “Maximize compatibility” enabled. I think I’ve had circa 2008 devices connect to my phone that way but I’ll have to test to see if I’m misremembering or not.
- bratwurst3000 4y ago
  Hey thanks i will test this when I will be back home. The core problem was that ipad and iphone have the same user account and because of that apple wants to share the network some other way then classic wifi. And this protocol aint updated in my ipad And screen mirroring is working when I use a new ipad :/

neuronic 4y ago

It frustrates me because it seems like the opposite of mindful engineering. I feel like that's the "we don't give a shit about resources" development mantra for you, banking on the ever increasing hardware limits that everyone will purchase in never-ending ~2 year cycles. "Ah, it's a nice morning with so many free gigabytes of RAM, calm CPU cycles and sunshine. Let's slap a few questionable libraries and a bunch of chatty analytics modules into the build." It doesn't help that a lot of major businesses work with contractors and consultants in relatively short-term gigs where feature development is king even if your application is reasonably feature complete. It's hard to improve a complex application if your domain knowledge and technical knowledge isn't quite there due to short time spent at the company (and likely no real personal invest in the product). Also, in mid to large sized companies, constant unwarranted changes to please a fat layer of middle management which needs to pretend to have some sort of impact may lead to crappy development. Let's just change the UI and UX for the sake of it with 5 additional libraries, 2 more processes so that manager XYZ has something to show for his PowerPoint presentation. Don't you dare work on technical debt and refactoring, we need new features to make management happy! Excluding possible external dependencies that might have broken or standards that might have changed, what did Netflix REALLY add to their app from a user perspective since it ran perfectly well on the iPad mini 2 in 2014?

theshrike79 4y ago
If their analytics say that they have 42 people using a 10 year old iPad, they're not going to spend the resources to a) source a similar iPad b) have QA and developers figure out what the issue is and implement a fix. It's just not cost-effective. I've heard of cases where mobile game firms have actually given high spenders a new modern device for free instead of dealing with the issues caused by their relatively ancient device :D

phs318u 4y ago

> which defeats the point of this iPad for me(cartoons playback device for my kid). It's a shame. For this specific use-case try https://b98.tv https://b98.tv, though I couldn't get it working on my old iPhone 5C.

gambiting 4y ago
We ended up getting a £50 Amazon Fire 7 tablet for that use case in the end, because despite restoring the ipad to factory settings and setting everything up from scratch, it was still crashing in the streaming apps. The Fire 7 is slow but works for the desired use case fine(and even has expandable storage, so I can just download loads of shows off netflix for the kid to watch without internet access).