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Wow. Adani is super scummy, and from research when they were starting construction on a big mine in Australia we knew they were structuring their tax affairs to

Wow. Adani is super scummy, and from research when they were starting construction on a big mine in Australia we knew they were structuring their tax affairs to not pay any tax here [1], but all this is something else. They have been suing a climate activist here for millions of dollars, and as part of it they had private investigators following him, his wife, and his children, including photographing his children while they were alone on the way to and from school. They were “unapologetic” [2]. Although from what I read of Adani’s human rights abuses overseas (such as forcing native tribes off their lands to build mines and infrastructure, and complete disregard for the environmental effects of their operations poisoning nearby communities’ air and water/food sources) this is a tiny drop in the bucket of that company’s scummyness. 1. https://cdn.getup.org.au/2061-2059-The-Adani-Files.pdf https://cdn.getup.org.au/2061-2059-The-Adani-Files.pdf 2. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/oct/28/private-investigator-hired-by-adani-secretly-photographed-activists-family https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/oct/28/private-inv...

defrost 4y ago
Yep - that's them. They're also fully trans national scumbags and haven't limited their bad behaviour to just India and Australia, they don't mind a contraversal resource | energy project or three. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmichael_coal_mine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmichael_coal_mine
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jimbob45 4y ago
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- wmf 4y ago
  This family sounds like a hydra of fraud. It's not enough to cut off one head.
- Drblessing 4y ago
  Are you inciting violence?
  - jimbob45 4y ago
    What's the alternative? Wait for the CIA to arrange for him to have an "accident"? How is that any different than a lynch mob? Note that I'd be taking a different tone if it didn't seem like he was actively evading governmental control.
BLKNSLVR 4y ago
And despite the obviousness of the tax structuring and other, worse, scummy behaviour, the Australian Government at the time was determined to push ahead with clearing the path for Adani to operate what would have been one of largest, if not the largest, mines in Australia. Infuriating.
- testrun 4y ago
  That same government is still in power. It is the Labor government in Queensland, for anybody that is wondering.
  - stephen_g 4y ago
    Yes. Our biggest problem in Queensland is that Labor aren't very good, but the opposition (LNP) is much worse and are basically just an absolute joke - they were a complete disaster last time they were in power (and voted out in a huge wipeout the very next election), have a lot of far-right crazies, are incompetent and extremely ideological. Minor parties like the Greens are getting more traction because of it, and there's been a big independent movement in the last few years across the country so perhaps that will dilute Labor's power somewhat. But we'll have to see next election...
    - themitigating 4y ago
      What did they do that was worse?
      - stephen_g 4y ago
        They went on big firing sprees around the public service, just absolute slash and burn style, huge spending cuts to the budget, reduction in services, and were getting ready to privitise a lot of public assets that bring in a lot of revenue (things that have been privitised in other states and have turned out to be disasters there, gouging people for essential services, like the power transmission networks). They under-invested in health, public transport, etc. They'd been voted in I think because there was desire for change, and very quickly the public sentiment changed. Kind of like "oh crap, not like this"... It's very unusual for a Government to only have one term but they were booted out decisively. Since then the party seems even less competent... So they haven't been able to make much of an impact in the last few elections.
arcticfox 4y ago
In one of those very odd Baader-Meinhof moments, I was reading about a different Indian mining company (Vedanta) today for the first time in my life. The controversies surrounding them look almost exactly like what you describe here with Adani. I guess once you've spotted a scummy Indian mining company you start to see them all over?
- vkou 4y ago
  > I guess once you've spotted a scummy Indian mining company you start to see them all over? Non-Indian[1] mining companies operate in a similar way. When the mines they operate are in the global south, political and indigenous opponents to them have a habit of ending up in pieces. Oh, it's not the executives in Toronto that are ordering organizers murdered and stuffed into oil drums - it's just the problem-solvers that their overseas branches happen to employ... [1] https://justice-project.org/the-canada-brand-violence-and-canadian-mining-companies-in-latin-america/ https://justice-project.org/the-canada-brand-violence-and-ca...
  - defrost 4y ago
    Just to be clear here, the Toronto TSX and TSXV exchanges are home to more mining companies than any other market in the globe; as such companies listed there aren't neccesarily majority owned or controlled by Canadian citizens (although there is a huge Anglo-Australian presence there). That said, shitty behaviour in the "global south" (or towards indigenous land holders enclaved with the US, Canada, or Australia) is common enough across the board no matter the nationalities of majority owners and board members.

defrost 4y ago

Yep - that's them. They're also fully trans national scumbags and haven't limited their bad behaviour to just India and Australia, they don't mind a contraversal resource | energy project or three. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmichael_coal_mine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmichael_coal_mine

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wmf 4y ago
This family sounds like a hydra of fraud. It's not enough to cut off one head.
Drblessing 4y ago
Are you inciting violence?
- jimbob45 4y ago
  What's the alternative? Wait for the CIA to arrange for him to have an "accident"? How is that any different than a lynch mob? Note that I'd be taking a different tone if it didn't seem like he was actively evading governmental control.

BLKNSLVR 4y ago

And despite the obviousness of the tax structuring and other, worse, scummy behaviour, the Australian Government at the time was determined to push ahead with clearing the path for Adani to operate what would have been one of largest, if not the largest, mines in Australia. Infuriating.

testrun 4y ago
That same government is still in power. It is the Labor government in Queensland, for anybody that is wondering.
- stephen_g 4y ago
  Yes. Our biggest problem in Queensland is that Labor aren't very good, but the opposition (LNP) is much worse and are basically just an absolute joke - they were a complete disaster last time they were in power (and voted out in a huge wipeout the very next election), have a lot of far-right crazies, are incompetent and extremely ideological. Minor parties like the Greens are getting more traction because of it, and there's been a big independent movement in the last few years across the country so perhaps that will dilute Labor's power somewhat. But we'll have to see next election...
  - themitigating 4y ago
    What did they do that was worse?
    - stephen_g 4y ago
      They went on big firing sprees around the public service, just absolute slash and burn style, huge spending cuts to the budget, reduction in services, and were getting ready to privitise a lot of public assets that bring in a lot of revenue (things that have been privitised in other states and have turned out to be disasters there, gouging people for essential services, like the power transmission networks). They under-invested in health, public transport, etc. They'd been voted in I think because there was desire for change, and very quickly the public sentiment changed. Kind of like "oh crap, not like this"... It's very unusual for a Government to only have one term but they were booted out decisively. Since then the party seems even less competent... So they haven't been able to make much of an impact in the last few elections.

arcticfox 4y ago

In one of those very odd Baader-Meinhof moments, I was reading about a different Indian mining company (Vedanta) today for the first time in my life. The controversies surrounding them look almost exactly like what you describe here with Adani. I guess once you've spotted a scummy Indian mining company you start to see them all over?

vkou 4y ago
> I guess once you've spotted a scummy Indian mining company you start to see them all over? Non-Indian[1] mining companies operate in a similar way. When the mines they operate are in the global south, political and indigenous opponents to them have a habit of ending up in pieces. Oh, it's not the executives in Toronto that are ordering organizers murdered and stuffed into oil drums - it's just the problem-solvers that their overseas branches happen to employ... [1] https://justice-project.org/the-canada-brand-violence-and-canadian-mining-companies-in-latin-america/ https://justice-project.org/the-canada-brand-violence-and-ca...
- defrost 4y ago
  Just to be clear here, the Toronto TSX and TSXV exchanges are home to more mining companies than any other market in the globe; as such companies listed there aren't neccesarily majority owned or controlled by Canadian citizens (although there is a huge Anglo-Australian presence there). That said, shitty behaviour in the "global south" (or towards indigenous land holders enclaved with the US, Canada, or Australia) is common enough across the board no matter the nationalities of majority owners and board members.