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Right AT&T has that crazy device allowlist, they say they require VOLTE support however if the device is an international or foreign model they will disable you
by yftsui 4y ago
Right AT&T has that crazy device allowlist, they say they require VOLTE support however if the device is an international or foreign model they will disable your line immediately.
Verizon doesn’t do that luckily, I believe they suspended new line activate with 5S however for existing lines they are not disable your line like AT&T yet.
- metadat 4y agoI suspect the policy is to slowly force everyone to 5G (and every successive generation) ASAP because they make more money per line due to lower cost to serve each device (more connections served per base station translates to needing less infrastructure and a better COGS ratio).
- radicaldreamer 4y agoYes, this is mostly an airtime use issue. Older devices have less efficient radios and thus cost more. Specifically iPhones with Intel modems.
- Analemma_ 4y agoI'm all for cynicism, but it really is true that spectrum is a limited resource and turning off 3G service means you can repurpose that spectrum for newer standards. If we never shut off old generations of wireless standards, eventually the spectrum would run out and we could never upgrade anything. I also don't really understand what you mean by "slowly force everyone ASAP". That's sort of a self-contradictory phrase.
- metadat 4y ago3G: 800 MHz, 850 MHz, 900 MHz, 1,700 MHz, 1,900 MHz and 2,100 MHz bands. 4G: 600 MHz, 700 MHz, 1700/2100 MHz, 2300 MHz, and 2500 MHz, bands. 5G: 24 GHz up to 54 GHz. Sure, it's an eventuality. But in the near term, is 6g really going to use 900MHz?
- yjftsjthsd-h 4y agoAnd once you deallocate the 3G stuff that spectrum can be used for the newer tech.
- ericpauley 4y agoThe 5G frequencies you're citing are for ultra-wideband. The other frequencies used are in the same range as 3/4G.
- toast0 4y agoI like what I've heard European carriers are doing. Leave 2G GSM up in the smallest block possible. Turn off 3G, mix LTE and 5G as appropriate (I think they're easier to mix within a band than earlier standards). Almost everything supports GSM, so almost everything can manage, and then nobody needs to throw out their 2G only (or 2G/3G) car junk or power meters or who knows what else. Yeah, it's going to be slow, but whatever; people who want something better can upgrade in most cases, and the 2G usage can't be that high anymore. Carriers could even gasp cooperate and allow roaming on 2g, so you didn't need three of four different networks each spending a sliver of spectrum on it.
- gambiting 4y agoI don't know about elsewhere, but in Poland in-country roaming has been a thing for a long time now - you buy your SIM card from a carrier but it can connect to any network in the country.
- davchana 4y agoRight. They did that, and forced me to buy a Samsung instead of Honor double sim LTE voice over model. Ironically, the same Honor is again on ATT network when I inserted my Airtel Sim in roaming mode.
- happycube 4y agoRemember when it was Verizon that was the super-restrictive carrier?
- Andrex 4y agoAT&T has always been very bad and not good.
- kube-system 4y agoAT&T used to be the only real national carrier where you could BYOP, because the CDMA carriers required you to buy the locked bloatware ridden phone off the shelf in their retail store.