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one thing I applaud MS for, even though I hate the OS they forced on the world: being able to grow revenues from acquired companies.

by dzonga 4y ago

Kukumber 4y ago
> being able to grow revenues from acquired companies. correction: being able to inflate and cover up their losses by acquiring already successful companies
- arcticbull 4y ago
  Doesn’t matter what you call it, the system works apparently. Not many companies can say that.
  - Kukumber 4y ago
    It is important when you want to draw conclusions; you should use factual data, not your emotions
    - eightysixfour 4y ago
      Your response appears to be much more emotionally driven than articbull’s. He is simply acknowledging their business model and the fact it is clearly a system that works, you’re assigning it some kind of value.
      - Kukumber 4y ago
        I read it again and i can see that, you are right, that wasn't the intent, i felt the comment was trying to downplay losses, so i felt the need to remind the differences, even more so since they just announced laying off 10k employees, including destroying the entire AR/VR/MR team
        arcticbull 4y ago
        Yeah sorry I didn't mean it to come across that way! I see their core business as changing, and they're being resourceful in leveraging acquisitions to continue to deliver shareholder value into the future. I think this is a strategy that many companies have historically executed on very badly.
gigel82 4y ago
For every success story (Mojang) there are 3-4 horror stories (Fast, Yammer, Nokia, aQuantive, etc.)
- i_love_cookies 4y ago
  I do feel like some of those companies were doomed before microsoft was involved at least
- basch 4y ago
  Is aQuantive still around? Atlas was sold to Facebook in 2013, and re-released in 2014. https://www.cnbc.com/2014/09/23/facebook-to-introduce-new-advertising-platform-wsj.html https://www.cnbc.com/2014/09/23/facebook-to-introduce-new-ad...
  - sundaeofshock 4y ago
    Not as a entity. MS broke it up and sold off all the parts. Razorfish is still sort of around: https://www.razorfish.com/ https://www.razorfish.com/
    - umeshunni 4y ago
      I think Razorfish was spun out before the acquisition.
- asdfasxcdf 4y ago
  Skype
- pjmlp 4y ago
  As ex-Nokia, on that case they did it to themselves. First for the kind of management we had regarding Symbian vs Linux, angering the Symbian developer community, always changing the development stack, deciding to bring a Microsoft person which decided to go all in on Windows Phone, when the R&D culture was pretty much anti-MS during those days (Symbian/Linux), and having a contract clause for a nice bonus if Elop managed to sell the company.

one thing I applaud MS for, even though I hate the OS they forced on the world: being able to grow revenues from acquired companies.

by dzonga 4y ago

one thing I applaud MS for, even though I hate the OS they forced on the world: being able to grow revenues from acquired companies.

Kukumber 4y ago

> being able to grow revenues from acquired companies. correction: being able to inflate and cover up their losses by acquiring already successful companies

arcticbull 4y ago
Doesn’t matter what you call it, the system works apparently. Not many companies can say that.
- Kukumber 4y ago
  It is important when you want to draw conclusions; you should use factual data, not your emotions
  - eightysixfour 4y ago
    Your response appears to be much more emotionally driven than articbull’s. He is simply acknowledging their business model and the fact it is clearly a system that works, you’re assigning it some kind of value.
    - Kukumber 4y ago
      I read it again and i can see that, you are right, that wasn't the intent, i felt the comment was trying to downplay losses, so i felt the need to remind the differences, even more so since they just announced laying off 10k employees, including destroying the entire AR/VR/MR team
      - arcticbull 4y ago
        Yeah sorry I didn't mean it to come across that way! I see their core business as changing, and they're being resourceful in leveraging acquisitions to continue to deliver shareholder value into the future. I think this is a strategy that many companies have historically executed on very badly.

gigel82 4y ago

For every success story (Mojang) there are 3-4 horror stories (Fast, Yammer, Nokia, aQuantive, etc.)

i_love_cookies 4y ago
I do feel like some of those companies were doomed before microsoft was involved at least
basch 4y ago
Is aQuantive still around? Atlas was sold to Facebook in 2013, and re-released in 2014. https://www.cnbc.com/2014/09/23/facebook-to-introduce-new-advertising-platform-wsj.html https://www.cnbc.com/2014/09/23/facebook-to-introduce-new-ad...
- sundaeofshock 4y ago
  Not as a entity. MS broke it up and sold off all the parts. Razorfish is still sort of around: https://www.razorfish.com/ https://www.razorfish.com/
  - umeshunni 4y ago
    I think Razorfish was spun out before the acquisition.
asdfasxcdf 4y ago
Skype
pjmlp 4y ago
As ex-Nokia, on that case they did it to themselves. First for the kind of management we had regarding Symbian vs Linux, angering the Symbian developer community, always changing the development stack, deciding to bring a Microsoft person which decided to go all in on Windows Phone, when the R&D culture was pretty much anti-MS during those days (Symbian/Linux), and having a contract clause for a nice bonus if Elop managed to sell the company.