That gets to whether sweat equity is equity when verbal ownership statements still mean something. Does staying up all night prepping for a pitch meeting and me

That gets to whether sweat equity is equity when verbal ownership statements still mean something. Does staying up all night prepping for a pitch meeting and meeting with bankers before the private mezzanine deal when you still have exams count? I mean I draw the line at about 3-5 for founders, but I could see that being smaller or larger. In the former case, I've been a founder once... if you think the first 20 working for promises of stock are founders, I've "founded" a few. If you think it's only the first person who has the idea that gets 100 people together for a unicorn, then I've never even been in one.