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> We use hands, recognize hands, some of us can draw or sculpt accurate representations of hands, we can talk about aspects of hands such as grip and fingerleng
by rcme 4y ago
> We use hands, recognize hands, some of us can draw or sculpt accurate representations of hands, we can talk about aspects of hands such as grip and fingerlength. All of these things encompass the idea and physical instance of "hand" in much more than just the artistic sense.
Sure, but the AI doesn't use hands so why would hands be of particular importance to the algorithm? Let's say the algorithm did draw perfect hands every time. Would you accept that it has understanding then? I doubt it. Your argument is essentially a slippery slope: no matter what it can do, you'd find something it didn't excel at and say "See, it has no understanding."
> Also, we certainly know when we draw a hand poorly. Unless we are children, or have a brain condition. And if we are children or have a brain condition other adults wouldn't say that we have a good understanding of what a hand is.
I've seen plenty of people claim they produce great art, when in reality it's terrible.
- anonymouskimmer 4y agoMy argument is not a slippery slope, though I see how it could easily go that way. I outline the kind of multi-factor understanding the AI would have to have to be considered to have understood "hand". This "hand understanding" could probably be simplified for an artistic concept of "hand". I believe a computer "understands" basic arithmetic on a non-conscious level. I haven't been convinced it understands the human hand, even in an artistic sense. > "I've seen plenty of people claim they produce great art, when in reality it's terrible." Yes. But other people typically don't go around saying that those people understand great art. Understand what makes it great.