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If you're experiencing an improvement, great. It seems reasonable that your gut issues (if nothing else) could be improved by addressing the gut biome. Since y

If you're experiencing an improvement, great. It seems reasonable that your gut issues (if nothing else) could be improved by addressing the gut biome. Since you've had some luck with traditional medicines, I can share my $0.02 about the traditional system I'm somewhat familiar with. In traditional Indian folk medicine, the focus for practically everything seems to revolve around improving gut health. It's a common belief that tongue health is a reflection of gut health, so for example a coated tongue suggests a sluggish digestive system, and the physician will seek to address that before anything else. A lot of treatments also include required dietary changes (like avoiding certain vegetables).

TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
> like avoiding certain vegetables I've never heard of this. Western medicine says "all the vegetables, all the time". What are some of the vegetables people told to avoid? Genuinely curious.
- wxnx 4y ago
  Even in Western medicine (at the research stage, at least), that is not necessarily true in patients suffering from certain conditions. There is some evidence (in the sense of evidence-based medicine) that a low-FODMAP (fermentable *saccharides) diet reduces symptoms in patients with irritable bowel syndrome. [1] As far as vegetables go, according to one site high-FODMAP vegetables include alliums and artichokes. [2] It is worth noting that the authors of the linked review paper caution that it is unknown whether a low-FODMAP diet may have long-term adverse effects. [1] doi:10.2147/CEG.S86798 [2] https://www.monashfodmap.com/about-fodmap-and-ibs/high-and-low-fodmap-foods/ https://www.monashfodmap.com/about-fodmap-and-ibs/high-and-l...
- kzrdude 4y ago
  Autoimmune Protocol diets commonly favour leafy greens a lot while telling you to avoid too starchy veg and everything in the potato-tomato family ("nightshades"). Very abbreviated it would be "eat green veg, fish and meat."
  - treeman79 4y ago
    I did this when I was in constant horrific agony. Full body burning pain. Serious painkillers Just to not want to die. Tried 100% only Chicken green veggies and sweet potatoes. A Month later I was out kayaking twice a week. No need for painkillers.
    - kzrdude 4y ago
      What a pain, sorry to hear that and great that it worked.
- valarauko 4y ago
  I have to plead ignorance on the specifics, since it's not something I've consulted myself, so unsure if it's a universal suggestion or whether each person gets tailor made recommendations - though I think it's the latter (based on conversations with people who did consult a traditional physician). Collectively, I've heard recommendations against tomatoes, eggplants, certain pulses common in the Indian diet, some leafy vegetables, okra, colocasia (leaves and tubers), and milk. At least in some cases, the dietary restrictions were supposed to last at least while they took the traditional medications.
- treeman79 4y ago
  Nightshades can increase inflammation. Tomatoes and Potatoes for example.
  - yosito 4y ago
    On the other hand, tomatoes can also be anti-inflammatory. It really depends on the situation.

TedDoesntTalk 4y ago

> like avoiding certain vegetables I've never heard of this. Western medicine says "all the vegetables, all the time". What are some of the vegetables people told to avoid? Genuinely curious.

wxnx 4y ago
Even in Western medicine (at the research stage, at least), that is not necessarily true in patients suffering from certain conditions. There is some evidence (in the sense of evidence-based medicine) that a low-FODMAP (fermentable *saccharides) diet reduces symptoms in patients with irritable bowel syndrome. [1] As far as vegetables go, according to one site high-FODMAP vegetables include alliums and artichokes. [2] It is worth noting that the authors of the linked review paper caution that it is unknown whether a low-FODMAP diet may have long-term adverse effects. [1] doi:10.2147/CEG.S86798 [2] https://www.monashfodmap.com/about-fodmap-and-ibs/high-and-low-fodmap-foods/ https://www.monashfodmap.com/about-fodmap-and-ibs/high-and-l...
kzrdude 4y ago
Autoimmune Protocol diets commonly favour leafy greens a lot while telling you to avoid too starchy veg and everything in the potato-tomato family ("nightshades"). Very abbreviated it would be "eat green veg, fish and meat."
- treeman79 4y ago
  I did this when I was in constant horrific agony. Full body burning pain. Serious painkillers Just to not want to die. Tried 100% only Chicken green veggies and sweet potatoes. A Month later I was out kayaking twice a week. No need for painkillers.
  - kzrdude 4y ago
    What a pain, sorry to hear that and great that it worked.
valarauko 4y ago
I have to plead ignorance on the specifics, since it's not something I've consulted myself, so unsure if it's a universal suggestion or whether each person gets tailor made recommendations - though I think it's the latter (based on conversations with people who did consult a traditional physician). Collectively, I've heard recommendations against tomatoes, eggplants, certain pulses common in the Indian diet, some leafy vegetables, okra, colocasia (leaves and tubers), and milk. At least in some cases, the dietary restrictions were supposed to last at least while they took the traditional medications.
treeman79 4y ago
Nightshades can increase inflammation. Tomatoes and Potatoes for example.
- yosito 4y ago
  On the other hand, tomatoes can also be anti-inflammatory. It really depends on the situation.